brilliant counsel elder style

by *Incubus 23 Replies latest jw friends

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  *Incubus

  When I was 14 I decided to dissassociate myself.The elder flipped and met with me and my parents.I shared my feelings about the hypocrisy that I saw in the teachings and actions of the witnesses.I was assured that I simply needed to pray more and that I was too young to comprehend the incidents which had made such a negative impression on me.

  Then they went on to liken my feelings to a man who had a handful of diamonds but could only see the dust on them.

  Did you ever receive counsel that belittled the real issue?
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  Awakened at Gilead

  Yeah when I was counseled about watching porn I also told them that I doubted some of the things taught. They dismissed my doubts and said that that was the influence of the porn.

  Like that's gonna change my viewpoint on the non-Biblical basis of WT teachings about 1914, FDS, other sheep, organization, etc...
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  flipper

  INCUBUS- Good thread. Yeah,years ago I had an elder tell me to accept back a methamphetamine drug addicted wife who had left me , even though she was dangerous to my teenage witness daughters. They said, " It's a good thing if your wife wants to get back with you. Just go visit with your daughters in a neutral location; not your home , since your wife would be there. " I said, " No, my wife won't be there as I'm not taking her back . I'm not putting my daughters in danger ! " Sometimes I wonder how some of those elders ever got out of bed in the morning ! The counsel was always lame that I received - 90% of the time
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  coolhandluke

  that gnawing feeling didn't catch up to me until I was about 22. it was the downward spiral. i said that something was wrong with me if when away from anything 'spritual' like meetings, service, studying i felt at peace and yet when faced with these things I felt physically ill. this was repeated to many. i had become friends with some prominent people in my area because i was involved in the caretaking of the assembly hall's computer network. i repeated this to all of them... the constant response was pray more, study more, go in service more.

  how stupid is that? i say doing this stuff makes me physically ill and you want me to do it some more? retarded. how about, well luke, why do you feel like that? what do you think those feelings are connected to? nah. thats too obvious
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  keyser soze

  I was too young to comprehend the incidents which had made such a negative impression on me.

  But not too young to make the decision to get baptized, I bet.
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  yknot

  square pegs don't fit into cylinders.......

  In other words....we don't want you (Jehovah doesn't want you) Piss off already you measely 7 year old worm..DIE DIE DIE DIE

  Gotta love POs.....
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  *Incubus

  Oh right!I was such an exemplary and sharp young 12 year old that it was encouraged.

  They basicly rejected my da letter in the meeting.
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  loosie

  Yeah when I told an elder about my mothers 12 beer a day habit that caused her to tell lies and be verbally abusive. They told me that there is a fine line between being an alcoholic and a heavy drinker and that she was just a heavy drinker.
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  R.Crusoe

  You shoulda told them about the guys testicles you polished off!!
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  cognizant dissident

  It's true. There is a fine line between being a heavy drinker and being an alcoholic. That fine line lies between beer #2 and beer #3, not between beer #12 and #13!

  Cog