Why This Site Needs Advertising

by Farkel 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    When I joined this board around the the turn of the last century, it was rather small and comfy. There were the usual cliques as there are everywere in life, and newbies like me were outsiders. We were scrutinized and evaluated and judged for worthiness. I failed on all accounts, which I considered normal for someone like me, and even a compliment. If you are me, you get used to that stuff. Net traffic on this site was pretty good, but not great.

    That was then. This is now. The board has exploded and traffic is huge. When lots of people access a site, the one who owns the site pays a fee for that. More people=more ISP fees. Lots of more people=lots of more ISP fees. Trust me. I know how this stuff works. It's called something like "loads of bandaids" or "loads of band width" or something like that.

    On the other hand, a site which uses lots of bandaids and has lots of visits attracts lots of advertisers. Advertisers like to advertise where the action is happening.

    So in order to pay for all the expenses of keeping this site active, and given the volume of the action on this site, our Dear Simon(tm) elected to use advertisers to help "defray" the cost of operating his operation and keep us all participating without charging us for that privilege.

    In the Internet world there are what are known as "rotating ads." These are ads that rotate so quickly that you cannot click on them before they are replaced by another "rotating" ad. I tried to click on an ad which offered a primer on serial killing (which I really wanted to purchase) and it was quickly replaced by another ad before I could make my click. I got a coupon for "Wheaties" instead. Damn.

    This is how Simon helped capture some of his orginal investment and how it helps him maintain this site, and ones should not criticize him for that unless they are willing to write checks to help pay for us to play. It is just the way the web world works.

    For technophiles: I'm a programmer. I know how this stuff works. This site is a .NET site. That means DOT Net. You can know this because the file extensions are .ashx which for common people means "x rated asp for homosexuals." (heh, heh) Now, if that is not clear enough, in New York City, DOT Net programmers make an average of $135,000 per year while peons who program in .asp make an average of $80,000 per year. What does that tell you? It tells you that nearly NO one likes DOT Net, that's what! Otherwise, the market would be flooded with DOT Net people and the salaries would be lower than they are. Ninety or so percent of data aware websites that use Microsoft technology are still using the old puny .asp stuff, and most of the desktop applications are still using the old puny Visual Basic.

    (I'm still trying to figure out where that slash goes: is it in the left bracket like </ or is it in the right bracket like />. I hate that part.) As I said, I am a programmer. And what is that shit where you have to put "eyeglasses" in code? You guys know what I mean: it's something like "<%".

    But I digress. Simon has kept his site alive because he has generated traffic and traffic generates companies that want to pay to be there. Therefore, Simon pays some or most of his bills to keep we idiots happy.

    I salute you sir, and to show you my respect, I will give you some super-secret source code. (Don't reveal this to anyone). Open up MS Word and on the first line type in this:

    =rand(200,99) [enter]

    Don't worry. It won't do any damage, but you will be surprised at what you see displayed!

    Farkel

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I've had a lot of beer tonight. I just got home from playing a rock and roll show. I dont really know what your saying.

    But I am thankful for Mr. Simon for running this site. It has been very entertaining for me.

    Thank you Simon.

    And 24 years after escaping the Tower, I figured out what this life is all about,

    Keeping me entertained.

    Thank you Mr. Simon.

  • wings
    wings

    Mr. Farkel, thank you for the informative post. I figured the advertising was there to help with the costs, but didn't understand about the "bandaid" thing. Still don't.

    I appreciate Simon for all his efforts with this site. I come here when I need to get grounded, to remember the "whys" and "why nots" in my life.

    I would have loved to have known this place back when it was cozy. When a newbie could even be recognized. Alas....no more. Makes no difference to me, I am getting to know those here, the variety and broad scope of personalities provides endless possibilities for future friendships. Not to mention constant entertainment.

    We were scrutinized and evaluated and judged for worthiness. I failed on all accounts, which I considered normal for someone like me

    Ditto.

    So, as long as you are explaining things....

    Why does it take HOURS for my computer to load the next page of posts after page 4973 (or whatever) if full. The few times I have posted a topic, I sometimes have to check my topic history just to see if anyone has responded.

    And for my next dumb question....

    What does bttt mean?

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I personally would rather see appropriate advertising on the forum. I can do without those ads that pop up when you put your cursor on a word with a blue underline. But the other ads do fund this forum, keeping it online despite the Watchtower Society wanting it down, and allow people to investigate other products. I myself ordered some Christmas candles (the electronic LED ones) for my windows through one of those ads.

    That is also one reason why I tend to limit advertising for commercial sites. It is OK when you have a suggestion to share, and it's on topic. However, if people regularly advertise for the same commercial site, they are providing that company a disincentive from buying advertisement. Also, I find it better when I do have to provide a link (like finding Christmas merchandise in July, when it does not pay the advertiser to buy advertisement) than providing the same link in season when it does pay.

    In fact, it is one of the rules--

    1. Advertising
      You can mention relevant, non-commercial websites as long as they support your comment.

    Non commercial sites, like other apostate web sites that are not advertised here but are relevant, do not really affect the financial aspect of the site (but they can add to the referential value). I would like to see more of them advertised here--especially on the home page. That way, we would get the advertisement revenue while also getting the reference. And, anyone that wishes to support those sites may do so at their will.

    However, even if it did come down to paying a fee for access to this site, it would be better than paying the same amount toward the Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund. Not a penny would go toward protecting pedophiles within that organization.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother
    But I digress. Simon has kept his site alive because he has generated traffic and traffic generates companies that want to pay to be there. Therefore, Simon pays some or most of his bills to keep we idiots happy.

    And we do appreciate it !

    grateful thanks to King Simon and Anghared for this board . It is a lifeline and provides a unique place to receive ex J W support..

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    Great reminder Doug.

    And a heartfelt THANK YOU to Simon & Angharad for not only maintaining the site but putting up with the flak that inevitably comes from referreeing a zoo like this.

    Here's one more reason why it's SO important that this site remain free of charge (at least to newbies):

    Newbie paranoia and terror.

    Just setting up a dedicated e-mail account and becoming a registered member in order to see ALL the forums was scary to me when I first started lurking. There's NO WAY I would have dared to pay any kind of fee through a credit card or PayPal. Too risky.

    Thanks again Simon & Angharad for the site.

    And thank you Farkel for your history of great posts. (Ya dipf*ck)

    ;-)

    Open Mind

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    For some time there was a PayPal banner on the top of the screen, whereby donations could be made to support JWD. I haven't seen it for quite a while.

    I'll add my thanks to the others. It hasn't always been 100% satisfaction, but all things considered, it's pretty darn good.

    Frakel:

    newbies like me were outsiders.

    What makes you think you're not still an outsider, you H2O reject? LOL

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    bttt back to the top

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

  • wings
    wings
    bttt back to the top

    thanks

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