growing up native american

by BIG D 21 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • BIG D
    BIG D

    for those of you that dont know, iam half choctaw indian, my mom told me an sad, but interesting story the other day, she is jw, and my dad elder, she had her indian boarding school reunion, in oklahoma, and did not want to go, the first i have ever heard of her reunion, in all my life,

    she told me this story, similar stories i have heard from indian relatives, when she was a little girl, about 7 , she had 11 brothers and sisters, she lived on tribal lands in oklahoma, her great grandmother signed the 5 civilized scrolls act in 1907 that said indians would give up there ansterial lands and be relocated to indian territory, oklahoma.our tribe was from louisana.

    her older family traveled from louisana, to oklahoma, in the dead of winter, on foot and hungry the whole way, over half the tribe died, sickness and malnourishment set in on the journey, and the military escort was berating them the whole way, the exodus, known to history books tday as the trail of tears. the soldiers learned the words tish-pa, which means hurry up.

    for some time after they made it to indian territory, they were given dispersments of money, they did not use money, and had no real use for it, it stopped shortly thereafter, the site named skully, to this day, which means money, a new word made up for it.

    someone came to the tribal land in oklahoma and said there was a new law, all indian children had to go to an indian boarding school, and get an american education, till the 12 grade.

    so they , then and there took all the kids, away, they had never been to school, and helped there parents work there lands, basically farmers,some of the older kids would run off and go back home, only to be rounded up and brought back, their parents were told they would see them every summer,but alias, they would see them only several times over the next 12 years.

    they were beat for talking choctaw, on there hands, so after a while they would only speak in whispers to each other, dare the beatings would commence, boys often ran off, while girls submitted, to this day my mom and aunts only speak choctaw to each other, and do so very quietly, the job well done by the schools.

    the boys would be sold for slave labor to the chain gangs on the highways, money given to the principal, and she would only see her oldest brothers, when they would run away from the roadgangs and check on her, when her parents were alowed to see them, they would ask where are your brothers little one, she would tell them, and the principal would say , oh they ran off.

    days turned into weeks and they turned into years, and still they beat her, and yes they molested many of the girls, there was no one checking on the appointments of the bureau of indian affairs, to run the schools, the mandate was to assimlate the indians into american society.

    abuse of alchol, was wide spread and distrust of anything white was merited, people were very prejudiced against indians and would spit at her when she would walk by.

    i guess i wouldnt want to go to that reunion either if i was her.

    big d

  • misanthropic
    misanthropic
    i guess i wouldnt want to go to that reunion either if i was her.


    Yeah no kidding, neither would I. Very sad the things she went through.

  • horrible life
    horrible life

    Big D My daughter and husband are Choctaw. I have heard my mother in law, talk about one of the boarding schools, near Fort Towson. I need to ask her more questions, and have my daughter listen also, so she can appreciate her past.

    She is on the Youth Advisory Board for the Nation. Which exposes her to a little bit of Choctaw Culture. She is only 1/8 Choctaw, but I still think it is important.

    She is now dating a boy, that is half Choctaw. His grandmother just passed away last month. I would have loved to have talked to her.

  • BIG D
    BIG D

    horrible........

    HOLITO

    big d

  • horrible life
    horrible life

    HOLITO to you too. yakoke

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    We have an historical site (National Historic Trails) here in North Little Rock dedicated to The Trail of Tears where it passed through here. It is on the Arkansas River. I have been there and read the story, Sad indeed. I imagaine your relatives passed through here. Many started out in concentration camps, already in bad shape, before the trek.

    The History Channels show this month on Andrew Jackson brought out his part in this. It also brought out that many Indians today, will not accept a $20 bill with his picture on it....seeing him as a murderer.

    Andrew Jackson:

    Andrew Jackson was the first "common-man" President. Orphaned at 14, he became a lawyer with no formal education, an Army General with no military experience and President without being rich. Jackson survived the nation's first Presidential assassination attempt, defeated the British in the battle of New Orleans and passed the controversial Indian Removal Act which resulted in the death of nearly 10,000 Native Americans. His portrait on the $20 bill conveys an image of passion, strength and confidence, but most historians will admit that he was often a "cruel" man.

    North Little Rock

    The Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee Creek, and Seminole all passed through North Little Rock during the Indian Removal period, making the city one of the most important sites on the Trail of Tears. The city’s Riverside Park is a certified site on the Trail of Tears National Historic Trail. In discussions between the City of North Little Rock, the Arkansas Historic Preservation Program, other associated groups, and the National Park Service, we identified the need to document the story and provide historic context as the first step towards developing a comprehensive plan for interpretation, preservation, and commemoration of Indian Removal there.

    In 2003, through a cost share agreement between the National Park Service and the University of Arkansas Little Rock, Prof. Dan Littlefield and a team of researchers developed a historic context report on Indian Removal through North Little Rock. This report will provide interpreters and park developers with the historical background necessary to develop a noteworthy Trail of Tears experience in downtown North Little Rock and preserve extant sites.

    The North Little Rock Site on the Trail of Tears National Historic Trail: Historic Contexts Report, 200

    Under orders from President Jackson, the U.S. Army began enforcement of the Removal Act. Around 3,000 Cherokees were rounded up in the summer of 1838 and loaded onto boats that traveled the Tennessee, Ohio, Mississippi, and Arkansas Rivers into Indian Territory. Many were held in prison camps awaiting their fate. In the winter of 1838-39, 14,000 were marched 1,200 miles through Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, Missouri, and Arkansas into rugged Indian Territory.

    An estimated 4,000 died from hunger, exposure and disease. The journey became an eternal memory as the "trail where they cried" for the Cherokees and other removed tribes. Today it is remembered as the Trail of Tears.

    Those who were able to hide in the mountains of North Carolina or who had agreed to exchange Cherokee citizenship for U.S. citizenship later emerged as the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians of Cherokee, N.C. The descendants of the survivors of the Trail of Tears comprise today's Cherokee Nation with membership of more than 165,000

  • erynw
    erynw

    I grew up in Oklahoma and have always been moved by this statue.

    The Trail of Tears
    Cowboy Hall of Fame
    Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

    alt

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    This #1 song from 1971 captures this sad episode of American history.

    Indian Reservation (Cherokee People) by the Raiders

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsMQbedCZj0

    BIG D -- thanks for sharing that post about your family history.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    How do I keep getting such weird formatting????

    I can't fix it!!!

    purps

  • erynw
    erynw

    I'll look at the code real quick

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