JWs NOT TO SUPPORT OF GOVERNMENTS QUESTION

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  • outnfree
    outnfree

    To continue from last evening (found my CD-ROM! ):

    *** rs 272-6 Neutrality ***
    With the establishing of the Christian congregation, a new situation came into existence. Christians are not under the Mosaic Law. Christ's followers were to make disciples of people of all nations; so worshipers of the true God would in time be found in all those nations. However, what is the motive of those nations when they go to war? Is it to carry out the will of the Creator of all the earth or is it to further some nationalistic interest? If true Christians in one nation were to go to war against another nation, they would be fighting against fellow believers, against people who prayed for help to the same God that they did. Appropriately, Christ directed his followers to lay down the sword. (Matt. 26:52) He himself, glorified in the heavens, would henceforth carry out the execution of those who showed defiance of the true God and His will.-2 Thess. 1:6-8; Rev. 19:11-21.
    As to serving in the armed forces, what does secular history disclose about the attitude of early Christians?
    "A careful review of all the information available goes to show that, until the time of Marcus Aurelius [Roman emperor from 161 to 180 C.E.], no Christian became a soldier; and no soldier, after becoming a Christian, remained in military service."-The Rise of Christianity (London, 1947), E. W. Barnes, p. 333.
    "We who were filled with war, and mutual slaughter, and every wickedness, have each through the whole earth changed our warlike weapons,-our swords into ploughshares, and our spears into implements of tillage,-and we cultivate piety, righteousness, philanthropy, faith, and hope, which we have from the Father Himself through Him who was crucified."-Justin Martyr in "Dialogue With Trypho, a Jew" (2nd century C.E.), The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Grand Rapids, Mich.; reprint of 1885 Edinburgh edition), edited by A. Roberts and J. Donaldson, Vol. I, p. 254.
    "They refused to take any active part in the civil administration or the military defence of the empire. . . . it was impossible that the Christians, without renouncing a more sacred duty, could assume the character of soldiers, of magistrates, or of princes."-History of Christianity (New York, 1891), Edward Gibbon, pp. 162, 163.
    What scriptures have always had a bearing on the attitude of true Christians toward involvement in political issues and activities?
    John 17:16: "They are no part of the world, just as I [Jesus] am no part of the world."
    John 6:15: "Jesus, knowing they [the Jews] were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone." Later, he told the Roman governor: "My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source."-John 18:36.
    Jas. 4:4: "Adulteresses, do you not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God." (Why is the matter so serious? Because, as 1 John 5:19 says, "the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." At John 14:30, Jesus referred to Satan as being "the ruler of the world." So, no matter what worldly faction a person might support, under whose control would he really come?)
    Regarding political involvement, what do secular historians report as being the attitude of those known as early Christians?
    "Early Christianity was little understood and was regarded with little favor by those who ruled the pagan world. . . . Christians refused to share certain duties of Roman citizens. . . . They would not hold political office."-On the Road to Civilization, A World History (Philadelphia, 1937), A. Heckel and J. Sigman, pp. 237, 238.
    "The Christians stood aloof and distinct from the state, as a priestly and spiritual race, and Christianity seemed able to influence civil life only in that manner which, it must be confessed, is the purest, by practically endeavouring to instil more and more of holy feeling into the citizens of the state."-The History of the Christian Religion and Church, During the Three First Centuries (New York, 1848), Augustus Neander, translated from German by H. J. Rose, p. 168.
    What scriptures have always had a bearing on the attitude of true Christians toward ceremonies involving flags and national anthems?
    1 Cor. 10:14: "Flee from idolatry." (Also Exodus 20:4, 5)
    1 John 5:21: "Little children, guard yourselves from idols."
    Luke 4:8: "In reply Jesus said to him: 'It is written, "It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service."'"
    See also Daniel 3:1-28.
    Do such patriotic symbols and ceremonies really have religious significance?
    "[Historian] Carlton Hayes pointed out long ago that the ritual of flag-worship and oath-taking in an American school is a religious observance. . . . And that these daily rituals are religious has been at last affirmed by the Supreme Court in a series of cases."-The American Character (New York, 1956), D. W. Brogan, pp. 163, 164.
    "Early flags were almost purely of a religious character. . . . The national banner of England for centuries-the red cross of St. George-was a religious one; in fact the aid of religion seems ever to have been sought to give sanctity to national flags, and the origin of many can be traced to a sacred banner."-Encyclopædia Britannica (1946), Vol. 9, p. 343.
    "In a public ceremony presided over by the vice president of the [Military Supreme] Court, on the 19th of November, honors were shown to the Brazilian flag. . . . After the flag was hoisted, Minister General of the Army Tristao de Alencar Araripe expressed himself concerning the commemoration in this manner: ' . . . flags have become a divinity of patriotic religion which imposes worship . . . The flag is venerated and worshiped . . . The flag is worshiped, just as the Fatherland is worshiped.'"-Diario da Justiça (Federal Capital, Brazil), February 16, 1956, p. 1906.
    With reference to patriotic ceremonies, what does secular history say about the attitude of those known as early Christians?
    "Christians refused to . . . sacrifice to the emperor's genius-roughly equivalent today to refusing to salute the flag or repeat the oath of allegiance. . . . Very few of the Christians recanted, although an altar with a fire burning on it was generally kept in the arena for their convenience. All a prisoner had to do was scatter a pinch of incense on the flame and he was given a Certificate of Sacrifice and turned free. It was also carefully explained to him that he was not worshiping the emperor; merely acknowledging the divine character of the emperor as head of the Roman state. Still, almost no Christians availed themselves of the chance to escape."-Those About to Die (New York, 1958), D. P. Mannix, pp. 135, 137.
    "The act of emperor worship consisted in sprinkling a few grains of incense or a few drops of wine on an altar which stood before an image of the emperor. Perhaps at our long remove from the situation we see in the act nothing different from . . . lifting the hand in salute to the flag or to some distinguished ruler of state, an expression of courtesy, respect, and patriotism. Possibly a good many people in the first century felt just that way about it but not so the Christians. They viewed the whole matter as one of religious worship, acknowledging the emperor as a deity and therefore being disloyal to God and Christ, and they refused to do it."-The Beginnings of the Christian Religion (New Haven, Conn.; 1958), M. F. Eller, pp. 208, 209.
    Has the neutrality of Christians meant that they are not interested in the welfare of their neighbors?
    Certainly not. They know well and conscientiously endeavor to apply the command repeated by Jesus: "You must love your neighbor as yourself." (Matt. 22:39) Also the counsel recorded by the apostle Paul: "Let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith." (Gal. 6:10) They have been convinced that the greatest good that they can do for their neighbors is to share with them the good news of God's Kingdom, which will lastingly solve the problems facing mankind and which opens up to those who embrace it the marvelous prospect of eternal life.

    outnfree

    Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    From Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry, 1983, Appendix, Pages 208-209:

    Submission to the Civil Authorities

    (1) What is the proper attitude for Christians to maintain toward worldly rulers?

    Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God -- Rom. 13:1

    Continue reminding them to be in subjection and to be obedient to governments and authorities as rulers. -- Titus 3:1

    Additional references: 1 Peter 2:13, 14; Danield 6:5; Acts 26:2, 3; 1 Timothy 2:1-3

    (2) Must a Chrisitan pay all taxes and assessments demanded by law?

    Render to all their dues, to him who calls for the tax, the tax; to him who calls for the tribute, the tribute; to him who calls for fear, such fear; to him who calls for honor, such honor. -- Rom. 13:7

    Additional reference: Luke 2:21-25

    (3) Are there any circumstances under which a Christian would refuse to obey the worldly rulers?

    With that they called them and charged them, nowhere to make any utterance or to teach upon the basis of the name of Jesus. But in reply Peter and John said to them: "Whether it is righteous in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, judge for yourselves. But as for us, we cannot stop speaking about the things we have seen and heard." -- Acts 4:18-20.

    In answer Peter and the other apostles said: "We must obey God as ruler rather than men." -- Acts 5:29

    Additional references: Isaiah 2:4; Daniel 3:16-18; 6:4-24; Exodus 1:15-20.

    (4) Should Christians comply with legal requirements such as the registering of marriages and births, respond to census inquiries or obtain required licenses and permits that do not conflict with God's laws?

    Now in those days a decree went forth . . . for all the inhabited earth to be registeres . . . Of course, Joseph also went up from Galilee . . . to get registered with Mary, who had been given him in marriage. -- Luke 2:1-5.

    Continue reminding them to be in subjection and be obedient to governments and authorities as rulers. -- Titus 3:1.

    Additional references: 1 Timothy 3:2, 9; compare Acts 18:1-3; Hebrews 13:4

    Optional questions for discussion: (a) Why is it important for you to be submissive to civil authorities even when their rule may seem to be oppressive? (b) How can you be submissive to the political rulers without violating Christian neutrality?

    outnfree

    Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    Thanks again.

    hawk

  • wannahelp
    wannahelp

    Hawk:

    Why do I have a feeling you're making a list, checking it twice to see who's been naughty and nice <ROFL>...

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