My Bethel Experience Part 16

by new boy 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • new boy
    new boy

    We are nearing the end of the journey.......So this next two chapters will be called "odds and ends" or things I didn't put in the right chapters..........because I thought of them after those chapters were written....

    Bethel Joke

    Three guys are sitting around, each drinking a large glass of beer.........A Publisher, a Pioneer and a Bethelite.......Just then, a fly lands in ALL three of their glasses of beer........The publisher....pushes the glass away and says....."I can't drink this now"...........The Pioneer looks over........Picks the fly out of the beer and keeps on drinking............The Bethelite.........picks up the fly by it's wings and holds it's head over the glass and says "Spit it out......Spit it out!"

    One guy, who didn't spit it out.........we'll call him Bob.......went to my roommates Polish wedding, in Green Point.......Now those people know how to put on a wedding! It was what we called a football wedding (a bethelites dream) because there are two bottles of booze on each table, one on each end. Well needless to say.......Bob and many others had way to much to drink, that night .......We took Bob back to bethel.......he lived in the 124 building......the "most holy".........I told my friend Dave to take him to his room and put him in bed.........Which he did.......but as soon as he left him......Bob decided to go to the mens bathroom, down the hall........so as soon as he hit the door he passed out cold, face down on the floor......at about 4:00 in the morning, some new boy went to the bathroom and saw him......OH! my GOD!......this guy thought.....This guy is dead!......So he called the Good Doc up and told him about the "dead guy" in the bathroom........After the Doc's examination, he said "He not dead.......but will wish he was, in the morning".........Well he was in George Couch's office (Bethel home servant overseer) the next day.........He did what we called the "Indian Navajo trick".............which is begging and screaming for one's life........It worked he only got a verbal reprimand......

    They don't tolerate much at bethel.......but if they kicked everyone out of Bethel, for drinking to much, the place would have shut down years ago.......So I'm driving down the FDR drive one Sunday, taking an old timer back to Bethel, (been there about 40 years) after giving a talk at my hall............ he points over to the Schafer Brewery and says " Son,......if the ever shut down that factory ........ they would have to shut down..... that one too!"..........pointing to Bethel. LOL

    There are stories of Bethelites back in the 1920's, 1930's 1940's they would find passed out Sunday mornings, on the sidewalk in front of the 124 building................They would just dust them off and bring them inside. Most of the folks like their booze there, including Knorr he would get "J&B" scotch by the case. Speaking of cases of booze........I will tell you, the story of the missing 1,500 bottles of "Fine Spanish Brandy"

    It was the summer of 1973......They were having the "Divine Enderance" international conventions (not the real name..... I forgot what it was) in N.Y.C.........Brothers were flying in from everwhere. Two 747's full of JWs from Spain, were going through the factory on tour.............My friend Armondo, who speaks Spanish was taking this group through.........It happen to be the one, that had the Spanish Overseer in charge of the whole thing........At the end of the tour.....the Spanish brother said to Armondo......."My friend....We have a gift for you and all the other Bethelites here at the World Head Quarters.......All of the brothers and sisters from Spain have chipped in to buy you and all the other hard working Bethelites a bottle of 'Fine Spainish Brandy'............and this is your bottle!".........as he was giving him the bottle..... the Spanish brother...........asked "who would we talk to, about how to distribute the other bottles?"......"AHhh........I guess" Armondo said "that would be George Couch......The Bethel Home Overseer"

    That night, Armondo told us his story..........as we were drinking a glass of HIS "Fine Spanish Brandy"

    You guessed it.........its been 34 years and I still haven't seen my bottle of brandy. Oh they got passed around alright.........and you have a good idea who got them. We even saw some of those bottles show up at local Elder's homes in the N.Y.C. area..................................Ahhh the Love.........Seig Heil.

    Something else happen that week. "The Great Grease Gun Fight of 73"........Most of the factory overseers were at the convention, so it was a loose ship there........That week we had the most tours going through the factory I have ever seen.......they were like one tour after the other.......The fight was between the press room guys and the "inkies" (Ink room personnel)......I think it started with someone puting a gob of grease in some other guy's shoes.........It soon escalated into a full blown grease gun war. The grease guns were used to grease the presses and other machinery......they work by a lever action.........they could shot a thick gob of grease about 15 feet............At one point they the "inkies" high jacked my eleavator for about 30 mins. I found in in the basement about 10 floors away. I got it back and headed for the ink room. They then they flipped the safety switch, so when I got in my elevator and shut the door............the elevator was dead.........they looked in the little glass window in the door.......I was trapped like rat in a cage, as they were laughing they put their grease guns in three tiny holes and shot me head to toe with grease. Then I finally remembered the safety switch and got out of there...........went up to the press room for reinforsements, Tom Plank and me grabbed our grease guns and went down to the 5th floor. We hit the door of the ink room with grease guns blazing............I was chasing Mike Stillman through side door...........as the door flew opened...............grease was wizzing passed his head........Yep!.... you guessed it, a tour of about 10 brothers and sisters were on the other side ...........I had nailed 2 "sister's"......dresses........full of grease!.......We were screwed.

    The door shut behind Mike.........The tour thought it was funny.............we knew it wasn't going be. The new boy tour guide turned us in.............There was only one thing.......to do......That was, turn myself in and do "the indian Navjo trick"............and beg them, not kick me out........of the "house of God."

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet
    They don't tolerate much at bethel.......but if they kicked everyone out of Bethel, for drinking to much, the place would have shut down years ago

    Just goes to show how there are one set of rules for the rank and file and another for the bethelites!

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    I have to tell the truth...Reading your story ( Thanks by the way) makes me very discouraged... I am a teetotler ...My life was really effected by drinkers. I gave my husband such a hard time because he was one. Reading your story makes me ashamed of the way I treated him., Implying to him that Bethel they were all wonderful Christans. In fact I am beginning to think HE was the saint & Bethel was full of the sinners. I do hope the newbies reading this will realize we were truly following an evil organiation..Time to leave it whole sale!!!!. How on earth could those at the top think they were an open line to GOD!!! Tom Cabeens wife was telling me that they had a special quarters for visiting "big wigs"

    She had to clean it... After they had left. LOTS OF Booze.... When Tom wanted to date her. she said "meet you in the special quarters.".. He was nervous about that. But that was the only way she would date him.... She cooked him up a storm Drinks an all. I think she told him" What belongs to Jehovah belongs to us all at Bethel..".. LOL I am glad they are out with wonderful lads. .Also Paul Blizzards wife said under the beds were loads of bottles ....... She had to clean em too. I am so sick of reading that those bunch of drunks stole 25 years of my life......& ruined all my family.... my 2 cents

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586

    Sounds like you guys had a ton of fun with those grease guns.

    Man! There are so many stories about drunk Bethelites! What a problem it is for everyone!

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Your friend Bob...wouldn't be Bob Huggins would it? ..seeing the name just sparked the memory. He was a Bethelite in the early 70's and if I recall correctly, this is where he got his first taste of booze and porn. I thought the pictures he had of his room, complete with what seemed like 50 empty bottles of booze, were just fabricated. There had been a party the night before and they lined up all the bottles to take the picture - must have been a great party! What I never understood was why the 'sister's' that cleaned up the rooms never reported any of the parties, the empty bottles or the porn magazines they found in the closets, to the Elders? ...sam

  • juni
    juni

    Good to hear "the rest of the story" newboy.

    I appreciate what you are saying Grace. Makes me sick to think that we towed the line in the most mundane things "back home" in our cong. while the House of God (Bethel) was rocking and reeling.

    That was one of the major reasons I made a clean break from it by DAing myself. I don't like to be around hypocrites and certainly not those that proclaim to be God's servants.

    Juni

  • new boy
    new boy

    To sammiel

    "Bob" was a fake name.........I don't want get anyone in hot water........The story is true.

    To Juni.........Yes....there was.........and many there now, that are "self medicating" themselfs. But it wasn't one big party............we were working 50-60 hours a week at jobs that would have driven any normal people nuts, for people that hated are guts...........we were not "rockin and reeling".........I only wish we were.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    newboy..love your stories..as for the person I mentioned - well - I imagine he's well over 50 now and last time I heard he was an Elder and a PO. This means that not only has Jehovah's spirit touched him but that the length of time for any wrongdoing to be open to punishment, would be long past, since he would have been just a young man himself then. Not that it really concerns me as I'm not a JW any longer and the hypocrisy that runs rampant throughout the whole organization rather disgusts me but if he were linked to drinking charges at Bethel now, that would only open the door to every single Bethelite getting investigated. The issue of porn came out of a conversation with another person who told of going to xxx movies and keeping porn magazines in the closet while there. If it happened once, we all know it happened twice and considering that this was/can be a df'ing offense, it is ridiculous to somehow believe that those who are now authorized to punish those for the same act that they themselves were guilty of, must now be treated as the Prince of the Kingdom. Not till one is out can one see clearly. sammie.

  • juni
    juni

    I apologize newboy. Drinking was a way of self-medicating to be able to continue the torturous life.

    And I'm sure the grease gun "fights" helped defuse stress.

    Thanks for correcting my wrong thinking.

    Juni

  • Madame Quixote
    Madame Quixote

    newboy said,"and many there now, that are "self medicating""

    Well, when you're in pain, you need medication. Being a jw insures a lot of pain. It's really a shame. And mouthy suggested how disgusted she is that so many years of her life went to keep these drunks in power. So many others have done the same, though, and continue to do so.

    very sad . . . thank goodness we're all out of that mess.

    "Part 16"!? My god, how long were you in that hellhole?

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