Sad Emo,
First of all, Happy Valentines Day My latest wood for this fire will be in red.
Then why do you put scientists and smart in inverted commas - are they less scientific than the ones Tetra listed? But yes, I'll grant that the intent of each list may have been different.
Im my opionion, they are using thier PHD, Doctorate etc to somehow make a public statement that thier belief in God and disbelief in evolution should hold more weight as a result of thier training. Read thier testimonies, I have, and I find it unsettling that they (in alot of cases) have stepped down from thier reasearch, teaching posts after finding God. THank you for granting that the lists are different.
If your only response to as to why you dont believe in macro evolution is "its still an unproven theory!" than I am confident you will not change any minds if that is your intent.
Not my intent at all, I don't know what gave you that idea, I'm still enquiring, did you notice that I wrote in spite of evidence before "it's still an unproven theory"? Like RAF has said frequently in her posts, you're free to believe what you want, I'm trying to learn for myself. What's the deal for you with me writing that anyway - even YOU have said evolution is unproven, why have a go at me for saying the same?
We are all learning, the more I learn the less I know I know...However I NEVER said it was an unproven theory. I said I agreed it was a theory. See below for defininition of a theory.
In science, a theory is a proposed description, explanation, or model of the manner of interaction of a set of naturalphenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theory which explains why the apple behaves so is the current theory of gravitation.
So let me get his straight, "literal bible creationists and evolutionists are "close minded" but people that believe like you in a non literal creation account but dont believe in MACRO evolution think outside the box?
Did you notice that I wrote some evolutionists before closed minded? I try not to do labelling. Stop pulling bits of my sentences out of context.
Ok so which evolutionists are closed minded??? lol Yes indeed I heard an inferance loud and clear in your statement.
Sad Emo, put down the brush you are using to paint people. You know nothing about how open minded I or other posters are from reading a few posts in an evolution debate.
Asheron, if you took my comment personally that's your problem. I did and okay its my problem.
I haven't 'painted' any posters at all, that is merely your misguided perception.
Maybe, but you did lob a non-specific judgement against unnamed Evolutionists and literal earth creationists. Cant you see how in this forum that it most certainly would be taken personally? So I ask again, which closed minded evolutionists did you have in mind?
You haven't given any response to my previous questions on this thread, and you aren't being exactly constructive by insulting my intelligence now - however little of it you think I have. Your assumption. I have no idea of the level of your intelligence nor have I insulted you in any way. If you took that out my comments than that is your problem.
I am not prepared to continue with this particular dialogue so if you feel the need to insult me further don't expect any reply.
What previous question are you reffering too, I truly must have missed it. I will gladly reply to any question I may have an opionion on.
If you've nothing constructive to say to me on the subject of evolution -
Ummm okay.
Asheron
