The thoughts of real True Believers

by Norm 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    You post so many of the same generalizations that it's not really worth my time to respond to them. As usual, you lie, slander and exxagerate to serve your purpose. But, I will analyze your pathetic attempt to emotionalize the issue.
    The Crusades were begun by self-serving, corrupt apostates of your former church, the Catholic one. Still, they as individuals were responsible to God for their actions and false teachings. They are still paying for that today, no doubt.
    There is no 'jihad' teaching in the Bible. You confuse extremism that can exist within groups claiming to be Christian and a CENTRAL TEACHING of Islam.
    The Koran says that all living humans must convert or die.
    Christian nations usually freely allow the practice of any religion but does not sanction secular law violators.
    I've yet to see a Muslim in America get his hand cut off for theft, a woman be beaten or killed for showing some skin (by the authorities).
    Sure, Christians condemn a lot of things but very few want or support a theonomy established by man. That's called "dominion theology" and it is very rarely supported in it's purest form.
    Christinaity has never been about organisations or churches, those are man-made and we are to flee those that violate our consciences as true Christians. We also must take into account that all sin and fall short of Christ's example.
    Where would you rather be, Miss Know-it-all, Kabul or Cleveland?
    Maybe you could go over to even one of the moderate Islamic states and tell them how wrong they are for treating their women so cruelly? Nah, that would take courage and conviction.....
    Forget Kabul, you would be shut up very quickly and completely.
    Cheers!
    Rex

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Rexie said:

    : The Koran says that all living humans must convert or die.

    So does the Bible, dimbulb.

    AlanF

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    God's judgement is reserved to Him at the end of the church age. IT IS NOT A ACT PRECIPITATED BY MAN.
    You lie again. You know perfectly well that Christ did not teach 'jihad' by any man.
    Rex

  • GWEEDO
    GWEEDO

    The interesting thing i find about these terrorist loons is that --not 100% certain that this is true-- but the night before the plane strike they went and got drunk and then refused to pay the bill at some bar. Drinking booze, as far as i know, is a big no no for a true Muslim. So is stealing for that matter. They also had their hookers paid for by Osama...apparently?

    My point is that it seems strange how someone can break every rule of their religion but still believe they have Gods blessing if they crash a plane and kill 1000's . It's the same with some Christians, they can break every commandmant, but if they understand some cryptic prophetic verse they are somehow approved by God and still above everyone.

    Weird thinking!

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    Here's the short list of Christian organisations practice what they preach. I wonder if Norm has a charity, or Alan, or Julie? Huh, gang? Put up or shut up time.
    Rex

    Adopt-A-Church International - brings together churches in the US willing to give spiritual and financial support to churches in Eastern Europe.
    Association Evangelique Des Demunis - helping needy people in Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Ethiopia, and other areas.
    Bread for the World - citizens' movement seeking justice for the world's hungry people by lobbying our nation's decision makers.
    Cedar Fund - a charity supported and staffed by HK Christians which works in 13 countries in Africa, Asia and eastern Europe.
    Christian Appalachian Project - volunteer inter-denominational service helping people in the Appalachians.
    Christian Reformed World Relief Committee (CRWRC) - relief, development, and educational ministry supported by the Christian Reformed Church in North America.
    Christian Relief Services - charitable organization providing humanitarian relief in the United States and around the world.
    Church Action on Poverty - national charity seeking to eradicate poverty in the UK. Publishes educational materials, undertakes research, and runs events across the country.
    Church Urban Fund - a charity making grants to Church linked projects in England's urban priority areas.
    Church World Service - Protestant, Anglican, and Orthodox communions in the U.S. cooperating worldwide in programs of long-term development, emergency response, and assistance to refugees.
    Educational Concerns for Hunger Organization - offers information about tropical agriculture, seeds, and training to missionaries, and development workers worldwide.
    El Hogar Projects - provides a home and education in a Christian environment for poor boys in Honduras.
    Faith in Practice - a community of volunteers who work to improve the physical, spiritual and economic conditions of the poor in Central America.
    Fellowship of Associates of Medical Evangelism [FAME] - dedicated to bringing medical help and hope to least reached people in underdeveloped nations.
    Global Hope - extending a vision of faith through hands-on Christian love in Romania.
    Global Outreach - non-profit foundation dedicated to helping people of developing countries to help themselves.
    Good News Family Care - seeking a return to traditional family values and offerering support, counselling, and temporary accommodation to families in distress.
    Heal the Nations - Christian nonprofit organization dedicated to facilitating community health development for needy people in remote areas of the world.
    Helps International - non-profit, non-denominational Christian organization providing assistance with medical care, education, housing, agriculture and economic development in rural Guatemala.
    His Kids, Too - Christian nonprofit international humanitarian aide organization providing aide to orphans and widows in several countries, including Ukraine, Russia, and Albania.
    Honduras Outreach - ecumenical Christian ministry partnership to improve quality life in Agalta Valley, Honduras.
    Hope Connections - making donations to the homeless and poor in the Oakland, Hayward, and Union City areas.
    Hope Now - helps people worldwide through prayer and donations.
    India Partners - nonprofit organization that works with charities in India.
    International Orthodox Christian Charities - coordinating international relief.
    Jericho Road, Inc. - contacting non-profit, social service organizations regarding volunteer opportunities.
    Kingdom Ventures - philanthropic venture capital organization supporting emerging Christian ministries.
    Kingscare - meeting practical needs with the love of God in developing countries through self help, medical, educational and training projects.
    Maranatha Volunteers International - constructs churches, schools, orphanages, clinics, housing and other structures in areas of great need around the world.
    Marine Reach International - interdenominational Christian organization providing medical care and facilities via ship, truck, and other means.
    MEDAIR - Christian relief and aid organisation.
    Mercy Ships - humanitarian organization committed to a three-fold purpose of mercy and relief, training and ministry.
    Mission Noah - dedicated to humanitarian aid throughout the world.
    National Benevolent Association - provide social and health services to meet physical, emotional, mental and spiritual needs.
    New Life Counselors, Inc. - grows and sells trees and shrubs to raise funds for Christian missions and for the training of Christian missionaries.
    One Great Hour of Sharing - non-profit, ecumenical ministry that provides for the needy all over the world.
    Operation Blessing International - demonstrates God's love by alleviating human need and suffering in the United States and around the world.
    Operation Warmup - clothing ministry serving needy families in Appalachia. High school students serve as Christian ambassadors taking warmth and Christ's love to the needy.
    Pura Vida Coffee - sells hand-roasted, gourmet coffees in a variety of blends and flavors. All net proceeds benefit at-risk children in coffee-growing regions of the world. Also provides information about the ministry.
    Rivers of the World - exploration and development group targeting the world's most remote rivers. Projects focus on health, education, agriculture, microeconomic development, and evangelism.
    Romanian Aid Foundation, The - provides help to the needy and offers hope through the Christian message in the Botosani region of the northeast.
    Salvation Army (39)
    Samaritan's Purse (2)
    Siloam Christian Ministeries - assists national co-workers, churches, and independent workers in the "Two Thirds World".
    Society of St. Vincent de Paul@
    Stamps for Christian Missions (SFCM) - collects used postage stamps to raise money for Christian missions.
    Strategic Pastoral Action Network - SPAN - social justice and human rights project.
    Tearfund - evangelical Christian relief and development charity working in partnership to bring help and hope to communities in need around the world.
    THOMAS - created to build a bridge of dialogue between the church and people who are on the fringes of society; includes EDGES Magazine.
    World Care Ministry - international, interdenominational Christian evangelical relief ministry.
    World Concern - relief and development organization helping poor and oppressed families become self-reliant through food, jobs, health care and education.
    World Hope International - Christian relief seeking to bring lasting hope through self sufficiency to the poorest people on earth.
    World Relief - Christian non-profit provides humanitarian aid, disaster, and emergency relief. Involved in community and economic development, welfare reform, refugee resettlement, and immigration.
    World Vision International@

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    Before I get to my list of charities specifically for children.....

    Did you know that Planned Parenthood in NY generously offered to have abortions performed for free to all who wanted them? My, isn't THAT just a typical example of the charity of the godless? Or, how about Gays using their political agenda to get millions of research money AWAY from Children's illnesses for their own pet project, AIDS research (a disease that would not continue if people behaved responsibly, sheesh many of the bathouses that spread this plague are starting up again, meanwhile hepatitus and AIDS are rising again!)!

    Yep, you NOW advocates and no morality advocates are really much better since you have left the JW Borg. Here's the mirror again, take a look above and see what you now promote.

    Back to the subject:
    2000 Feet, Inc. - nonprofit charity providing brand new shoes exclusively to economically disadvantaged youths and adolescents.
    Bright Horizons Camp Scholarships - provides Christian camp scholarships to children ages 7-17 from the West Michigan area.
    Catalyst Complex, Inc. - sponsors a family prayer night and a Bosnia orphan relief fund.
    Child America Ministries - non-profit charity dedicated to children. Services include food, clothing, medical help, counseling, school supplies, and child care.
    Children's Cup International Relief - providing famine and crisis relief, medical assistance, safe drinking water, educational assistance, and vocational and spiritual training.
    Christian Children's Charity - reaching out to the world's hungry children.
    Christian Children's Fund (2)
    Christian Communications Commission Intl. - a personal ministry of Rev. Syvelle and Lovie Phillips to children of the third world via individual monthly sponsorships.
    Compassion International (3)
    Dreams Do Come True Non Profit Kids Charity - foundation and non profit organization helping to make a child's wish come true.
    Family Care Foundation - supporting humanitarian and missionary projects to provide emergency services and sustained development for communities, families, and children.
    Feed the Children - non-profit Christian organization providing food, clothing, educational supplies, medical equipment and other necessities to people who lack these essentials.
    Global Care - an international Christian charity working for needy children through relief, development, education and child-care programmes.
    Hands That Help - missionary outreach program deliver aid and doonations to orphanages and shelters in Germany, Hungary, Italy, and Romania.
    Kids Around the World - builds colorful playgrounds and parks for kids and their communities.
    Newborns in Need - nondenominational Christian organization organizing craft projects and donations to help newborn and premature babies.
    Orphanos Foundation - non-profit ministry meeting the needs of children world-wide through prayer, grants, education, and short-term mission teams.
    Slavic Missionary Association - helping orphans and homeless children in Russia.
    Solar Cooking in Peru - case study of making and using solar cookers in the Peruvian Andes for the Peru Children's Trust, a UK charity.
    Spafford Children's Center Association - providing financial support for medical care, counseling, and special education for children and their mothers residing in Jerusalem and the West Bank.
    Toybox Charity - promotes awareness of the plight of street children in Latin America and supports projects to bring an end to their suffering.

    All of this done by HATED CHRISTENDOM! We've barely scratched the surface and Catholic Charities are overwhelming. Yep, keep bashing persons of faith. You're fullfilling prophecy in your own little way.
    Rex

  • Norm
    Norm

    Hello Rex,

    Wow! Have you been blustering and puffing. You still havent answered the simple questions I asked you some time ago.

    Could your God have prevented the WTC and Pentagon horror? If he could why didn't he? If he couldn't what does that make him? In any case what's the use of praying to him?

    Now try to explain this to us "unbelievers" Rex, try not to drown us in flem this time.

    Norm

  • radar
    radar

    Norm

    An insightfull comparison!

    Emperor Hiroheto lost his Godship because of the Atom bomb.
    The Kamakazi japanese gave their lives just for a man. So do all such religious people.
    Maybe America should drop an A Bomb on the Muslim's Holy Mecca.
    Then the Wailing wall.Just think of all that bowing down they would save people from.
    Then drop one on the WBTS in new York.Then one in Rome.
    It will then be Paradise and Peace at last!!

    Radar

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    C'mon Norm, How many times must your question be answered? It's really the same question over and over, "why does God, did not God...etc." What happened in Genesis, Norm?

    You want freedom to choose or not choose God instead of being a puppet, right? That drama has been played out for 6000 years and you have exactly what you wanted. "I am the 'captain of my fate' and I choose my lifestyle. I am responsible to no one and no one else is."
    Yep, you have the very thing that humanity has asked for. Live with it and quit whining or, maybe you could actually do something to make the world a better place in a little way?
    God acts when He chooses and in His way and at His time. He provided us with a saviour and a life free to choose Him or not. The victory was won clear back at the cross and it is your own fault if you do not take His offer.
    Where's your charity, Norm? You didn't answer my inquiry.
    Rex

  • Undecided
    Undecided

    Hi Rex,

    You made this statement:

    God acts when He chooses and in His way and at His time. He provided us with a saviour and a life free to choose Him or not. The victory was won clear back at the cross and it is your own fault if you do not take His offer.

    From what I have read in the bible, it seems that every time God has acted it was just like the men in the planes, his acts were to bring death and destruction. The flood, Jerusalem, Egypt, all the non-jewish people in the promised land, and yes his own son had to die, to appease him. Doesn't he ever bless people with good acts of kindness?
    Well, I guess I should blame it all on the devil.

    Ken P.

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