JWs are 'perfect' ...... were it not for ...

by zagor 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • zagor
    zagor

    Well, meeting j-dubs these days when I least expect them is just something I'm 'blessed with' I guess.
    I went to a leather clothes shop to buy something. I've got a couple of things back to counter to check out. As it happens there is always someone there who just keeps explaining things to someone into excruciating detail, then they touched on Christmas and this guy jumped on another opportunity to start explaining it away as pagan practice. Never mind there were already two other customers standing there and waiting. Thankfully that quickly ended conversation, as the gentlemen in front just didn't feel like having some creep spoiling his good mood.
    I asked this guy, “you wouldn't be one of JW would you”. His eyes lighten up "YES, YES I am one of ..."
    So I though, what a hell, since I'm here might as well have some fun for few minutes. I let lady behind me go first while I stayed behind. This guy couldn't believe his luck that someone actually wanted to speak about his beliefs. (And talk about an opportunity to squeeze in few more minutes of field service, maybe even more)
    If he only knew.
    I said, "I'm not interested in your religion" which instantly stunned him. "So, wh, what are you interested in then". Me "Just wondering how come you people can protect pedophiles in your midst while condemning catholic church for doing the same, or how come with one side of your lip you condemn United Nation while with the other you give them public praise in your publications?"
    Needless to see he at first tried to deny everything but as we carried on talking slowly but surely his confidence diminished and all of a sudden he found himself defending an impossible idea of WTBS purity.

    The climax of conversation was something I still remember vividly from my days inside the borg. When there are no other arguments they started digging out excesses no other group on this planet usually does. It is all just "human imperfection" and of course "human heart is weak and treacherous" not to mention that "human body is fallen and imperfect" of course we may never underestimate influence of "devil and his demons" as well as that of "this wicked system of things".
    I just let him go through his arguments nodding. I suppose he almost felt he finally got something substantial to which I surely had to agree. I finally said. "So what you are saying is if we remove all those things you would be there standing perfect and spotless because it is all someone or something else’s fault and never yours?" He just stared at me. I asked, "don't you people ever take responsibility for your actions?"
    "But suppose that all of those arguments are valid, couldn't they be easily applied to catholic priests who succumbed to temptations or anyone else" The answer was so stupid that I just bursted into laughter "oh no, you see, they are not god's people, blah, blah, blah, blah"
    I said "so being “god's people” gives you license or at least allowance to judge others while no one is allowed to judge you.. Haven’t you ever heard that saying 'Do not judge, or you too will be judged.’?

    By this moment he was absolutely speechless. Gawd I almost wish I've had some anti-witness tract to give it to him lol.

    I then thanked him paid for my things and left, as there was by that moment someone else already waiting for check out.

    Anyhow, just wanted to tell you people that :) maybe you have had similar experiences....

  • Mary
    Mary
    But suppose that all of those arguments are valid, couldn't they be easily applied to catholic priests who succumbed to temptations or anyone else" The answer was so stupid that I just bursted into laughter "oh no, you see, they are not god's people, blah, blah, blah, blah" I said "so being “god's people” gives you license or at least allowance to judge others while no one is allowed to judge you..

    LOL! I'm surprised his head didn't burst into flames. Yes, this is the typical mentality of the Witnesses. No matter how many times they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar, it all boils down to: Ya, but we're still God's chosen.

    What's unbelievable, is that it was exactly this sort of attitude and actions that they claim is the reason why God doesn't approve of other religions. Yet somehow, miraculously, even though they've got a history of failed prophecies, flip flopping on doctrinal issues which has caused many lives, have needlessly split up families, protect pedophiles and are in bed with the UN, they still have God's approval?

    Gimme a break......BTW, you did an excellent job on him.

  • LoverOfTruth
    LoverOfTruth

    You've givin this individual something to think about. That is the beginning of Change.

  • misanthropic
    misanthropic

    ::I went to a leather clothes shop to buy something.

    So you did take my advice on buying those leather chaps after all :-)

  • sspo
    sspo

    Good job

    I'm glad you nailed him on a few things, maybe he'll go home and start to finally think or at least stop judging other religion.

  • sass_my_frass
    sass_my_frass

    Nice work!!! You get five thumbs up...

  • Clam
    Clam

    Zagor great story and thanks for sharing. I wish I had more opportunities like this. I only ever get to piss the Dubs off who come to my door or the ones in my family who through consideration I tend to go easy on.

    "so being “god's people” gives you license or at least allowance to judge others while no one is allowed to judge you.. Haven’t you ever heard that saying 'Do not judge, or you too will be judged.’?

    That's the sort of medicine they need. Nice one!

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    You kept it sweet and simple. Well done

    They're perfect, aside from being imperfect when it suits them. Whereas the rest of the 99.9% (literal figure) of the world is merely culpable

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