Who is Azazel?

by M.J. 26 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • MsMcDucket

    Answer.com's definition:


    Asael (Aramaic: ????, Greek: ‘?se??) was the 10th Watcher of the 20 leaders of the 200 fallen angels that are mentioned in an ancient work called the Book of Enoch. The name most likely means "creation of God" but scholars aren't certain; many have confused Asael with Azazel but they are 2 different fallen angels with 2 different ranks and their names mean 2 different things. Asael might mean "creation of God" or "made by God" but Azazel means "arrogant towards God". Micheal Knibb [1] lists him as being “God has made”.


    1. ^ The Ethiopic Book Of Enoch., Knibb, Michael A., Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1978, repr. 1982.


  • Narkissos

    Inasmuch as Leviticus 16 (which is globally a late post-exilic text) does preserve the memory of a much older expiation ritual, which is most likely, Azazel ("the Strong One of El," by the Syriac and Qumran Temple Scroll spelling) had probably nothing to do originally with the myth fragment in Genesis 6 and its developments in 1 Enoch. It was probably one (the chief?) of the "desert demons" which occur elsewhere in the Bible (Isaiah 13:21; 34:11ff). Those demons (sa'irim), evocative of goats, were originally unrelated to the theme of the "gods/angels descending from heaven" -- btw, in the later Enochian tradition, the "demons" were not the angels but the spirits of their giant progeny.

  • M.J.
    So, Azazel is supposed to be like Jesus? What is the purpose of making an atonement to Jehovah, who is the most high if you still had to make a sacrifice to a demon-being?

    No, both goats are said to picture Jesus. The scapegoat's function was to bear and carry away sin. 2 Cor 5:21 says, "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us" and 1 Pet 2:24 says, "He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree".

    The goat took the sins to Azazel in the wilderness. Christ took them to the grave...

  • MsMcDucket
    in the later Enochian tradition, the "demons" were not the angels but the spirits of their giant progeny.

    Narkissos are you saying that they were Nephilim spirits? The plot thickens!

  • Narkissos


    Indeed. Cf. 1 Enoch 15:8--16:1:

    Now the giants, who have been born of spirit and of flesh, shall be called upon earth evil spirits, and on earth shall be their habitation. Evil spirits shall proceed from their flesh, because they were created from above; from the holy Watchers was their beginning and primary foundation. Evil spirits shall they be upon earth, and the spirits of the wicked shall they be called. The habitation of the spirits of heaven shall be in heaven; but upon earth shall be the habitation of terrestrial spirits, who are born on earth. The spirits of the giants shall be like clouds (Greek nephelas, cf. nephilim), which shall oppress, corrupt, fall, content, and bruise upon earth. They shall cause lamentation. No food shall they eat; and they shall be thirsty; they shall be concealed, and shall not rise up against the sons of men, and against women; for they come forth during the days of slaughter and destruction
    And as to the death of the giants, wheresoever their spirits depart from their bodies, let their flesh, that which is perishable, be without judgment. Thus shall they perish, until the day of the great consummation of the great world. A destruction shall take place of the Watchers and the impious.

    The book of Jubilees (10:9) has a slightly different version where only one tenth of the giants are preserved as "evil spirits".

    The "angels" or "watchers" otoh are bound in darkness until the day of judgement (as in Jude and 2 Peter which are directly dependent on 1 Enoch). The WT has even got that wrong...

  • Leolaia

    MsMcDucket....He is one of a group of angels (in fact, a leader of them with Shemihazah) who descend to earth to teach humankind divine knowledge, and to intermarry with the women of the earth. The Asael myth is very close to that of Prometheus, who taught humankind how to make fire but who was later bound forever as punishment (the Greek myths, in fact, are partially derived from the same ANE myths that 1 Enoch derives from, cf. Shemihazah whose name may reflect the name of Mount Hazzi = Cassius in Greek myth). As Narkissos pointed out, this Enochic myth was originally entirely independent of the Azazel of Leviticus, tho similarity in the names and the desert locale led to mutual assimilation of the two beings in later Jewish thought.

    Narkissos are you saying that they were Nephilim spirits? The plot thickens!

    The idea that the demons are the released spirits of the Nephilim can be found in different forms throughout early Jewish and Christian literature, cf. 1 Enoch 15:6-9, 19:1, 89:6, 99:7, Jubilees 7:20-28, 10:1-2, Justin Martyr, 2 Apology 5.2, Athenagorus, Plea 6.3.2, Minucius Felix, Octavian 26, Tertullian, De Idololatria 4, Lactantius, Divine Institutes 2.15, Commodianus, Instructiones 3, Pseudo-Clementines, Homily 8.10-20. Consider the last of these:

    "But from their unhallowed intercourse [between human women and angels] spurious men sprang, much greater in stature than ordinary men, whom they afterwards called giants ... they were greater than men in size, inasmuch as they were sprung of angels; yet less than angels, as they were born of women... But they, on account of their bastard nature, not being pleased with purity of food, longed only after the taste of blood. Wherefore they first tasted flesh. And the men who were with them there for the first time were eager to do the like... But by the shedding of much blood, the pure air being defiled with impure vapor, and sickening those who breathed it, rendered them liable to diseases, so that thenceforth men flied prematurely. But the earth being by these means greatly defiled, these first teemed with poison-darting and deadly creatures... God wished to cast them away like an evil leaven, lest each generation from a wicked seed, being like to that before it, and equally impious, should empty the world to come of saved men. And for this purpose, having warned a certain righteous man, with his three sons, together with their wives and their children, to save themselves in an ark, He sent a deluge of water, that all being destroyed, the purified world might be handed over to him who was saved in the ark, in order to a second beginning of life. And thus it came to pass... Since, therefore, the souls of the deceased giants were greater than human souls, inasmuch as they also excelled their bodies, they, as being a new race, were called also by a new name. And to those who survived in the world a law was prescribed of God through an angel, how they should live. For being bastards in race, of the fire of angels and the blood of women, and therefore liable to desire a certain race of their own, they were anticipated by a certain righteous law. For a certain angel was sent to them by God, declaring to them His will, and saying: -- 'These things seem good to the all-seeing God, that you lord it over no man; that you trouble no one, unless any one of his own accord subject himself to you, worshipping you, and sacrificing and pouring libations, and partaking of your table, or accomplishing nothing else that they ought not...' Having charged them to this effect, the angel departed. But you are still ignorant of this law, that every one who worships demons, or sacrifices to them, or partakes with them of their table, shall become subject to them and receive all punishment from them, as being under wicked lords.... But you should know that the demons have no power over any one, unless first he be their table-companion" (Homilies, 8.15-20).

    See also the Acts of Thomas, 32, in which Satan declares: "I am the one who cast the angels down from above and bound them fast in their desire for the women, so that earth-born children might be born of them and I might work my will in them," i.e. the demons who continue to work evil. Note also the evil spirits who possess swine in Matthew 8:32, who end up drowning themselves. This repeats the same fate the demons originally had as the Nephilim, who died through drowning during the Flood and whose spirits were released upon the death of their physical bodies. That is why the demons always seek new bodies to inhabit in the gospels, because they lost their original physical form (cf. Matthew 12:43).

  • MsMcDucket

    Leolaia, now that sounds more like the movie "Fallen".

    ~~Time is on my side! Yes, it is!~~

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