scholar pretendus mindus madeupus said in his post 1385:
: if you search 537 by means of google you will notice that there is a general acceptance for 537 rather 538. So much for your childish nonsense.
I challenged this moron many a time to present any kind of reasoning from any sources at all to support the 537 date, including reasoning from the websites that supposedly indicates a "general acceptance for 537". So far, nothing has been forthcoming.
Since scholar pretendus is demonstrably too stupid and lazy to present any kind of evidence, I've taken him up on Googling for dates. I would Google for dates more often, but my wife tends to object to online dating.
Anyway, I did Google searches for two sets of words: "jews return 538" and "jews return 537". These were for separate words, not strings. For 538 I got 77 pages returned and for 537 I got 78 pages returned. I suspect there are a lot more, but that's what Google returned with a simple search. I quit looking at the results at 10 pages.
One thing became clearly evident: Not a single website was written by a recognized scholar, but by amateurs or authors writing for a popular audience. While many of the sites were scholarly to a certain extent, almost all were simple presentations of timelines or something like that. No discussion of the underlying historical data was attempted. Only one site had anything resembling an argument for its preferred date, and this was based entirely on the author's attempt to make sectarian arguments, which is of no value here.
Another thing that became abundantly clear is that, even though none of the websites were from real scholars, the ones in favor of 538 were, on average, a good deal more scholarly than the ones in favor of 537. It appears to me that the sites that list 537 do so mainly because they referred to 19th century scholarly sources, whereas the sites that list 538 do so based on modern sources.
I present two main categories of websites, ones that list 538 or 537. Within each major category, I break down the URL listings by whether they agree or disagree with accepted biblical and secular chronology, and whether they give the reasons for their listing of the particular date.
WEBSITES THAT LIST 538
These sites give a definite statement that the Jews returned in 538 B.C.
Websites that agree with both biblical and secular chronology and state the reasons:
Websites that agree with both biblical and secular chronology and do not state the reasons:
A CHRONOLOGY OF THE "TIMES OF THE GENTILES"
Compiled by Lambert Dolphin
The Jewish Agency for Israel
The Bible in Historical Perspective
3000 YEARS OF HISTORY IN JERUSALEM
This Day in Jewish History
The Origin and Fate of the Temples at Jerusalem
Judaism after the Babylonian Exile
Return from Babylon to Zion
Heritage Civilization and the Jews
The Jewish Theological Seminary
The Captivity to the End of the Old Testament
Ted Thornton HUMANITIES II Sophomore Humanities
IMPORTANT DATES IN ANCIENT HEBREW HISTORY:
The Jewish World of Jesus: An Overview
Jeremiah Was a False Prophet
A Map in Time
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Israel Science and Technology Homepage
Brief History of Israel and the Jewish People
Bar-Ilan University's Parashat Hashavua Study Center
THE HISTORY OF ISRAEL
The Jewish Theological Seminary
Prophet Daniel, Jewish Exile, Antiochus Epiphanes
The Holocaust, the Faithful, and Disengagement
THE JEWISH RIGHT TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL
From Abraham to Intifada
The Catholic Encyclopedia: Judaism
Chronology for the history of Israel and Judaism
Jewish History Tables
eDevotions for Growing Christians
WEBSITES THAT LIST 537
These sites give a definite statement that the Jews returned in 537 B.C.
Websites that disagree with biblical chronology and do not state the reasons:
Jerusalem the Endless Crusade
Return to the Promised Land
Main Events In The History Of Jerusalem
Alpha and Omega Ministries
Point of no return
Wikipedia: Babylonian captivity
Wikipedia: Persian Jews
JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY
When was Jerusalem Destroyed?
Book of Haggai
Cyrus Charter of Human Rights Cylinder
The Weight of History
Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years
Virtual Tour - The Western Wall Time Line Jerusalem
SECTION 11: The Old Testament and Its Authors
Daniel's Fourth Kingdom
A Portrait of Cyrus II
Chancellor's Parashah Commentary
The Destruction and Rebuilding of the Temple of King Solomon
Bible references to censuses and time table on segment of Hebrew history
Evolution Encyclopedia Vol. 3
Websites that disagree with biblical chronology and state the reasons:
Prophecy and Current Events
Websites that disagree with both biblical and secular chronology and do not state the reasons:
When Was Judah's 70-Year Babylonian Captivity?
Jewish Living Publications
What Saith the Scripture?
Why We Need Israel
The Book of Ezra
History of the Jews
Jesus Christ, our Temple
Symbol of All Hopes
ON THE NEW TESTAMENT
The Bible: Proofs of Its
The Building of the Second Temple
Daniel: Historical & Chronological Comments (XII)
Websites that disagree with both biblical and secular chronology and state the reasons:
My conclusion, based on looking at the above sites, is that scholar pretendus mindus madeupus has a very good reason for refusing to list the websites he claims support the 537 date, along with the reasons for supporting the date: they give no reasons, and they are not generally scholarly.
Of course, arguing the validity of any matter based on the quantity of Google hits that appear to support some conclusion is worse than useless -- it's downright stupid. Yet, that is what scholar pretendus is reduced to, since he has no scholarly arguments for his case.