Herdlike mentality at it's best.....

by AK - Jeff 8 Replies latest jw experiences

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    Sitting in conversation with a friend this morning in my fav coffee shop. In walk the 'service group' for the day, three sisters whom I have known for decades, followed by the PO of the congregation I used to be part of before we left 2+ years ago.

    The sis's were in the place a full two minutes before the PO showed up. They all saw me and immediately averted the eyes away from me. [I am not DA'd or DF'd yet - though known as apostate]. They had to work hard to pretend they did not see me, since the place is small, and I was only a few feet from the place they stood to order. When the PO came in he did the same - then on the way out the door he spoke to me "Well, hello Jeff, How are you?", as if he hadn't seen me before they ordered. I spoke politely.

    Then the Lemming Sisters all in line as they left, chimed in with a brief hello also.

    What a herd of cattle! They had to wait to follow the leader. It makes me laugh everytime I see this happen. They just can't operate without someone telling or signalling the 'right thing to do'. OMG, were we all like that?

    Jeff

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    well since the po said it first... " Hiya jeff! happy friday!" lol

    i've seen it too when my ex was df'd. i wasnt df'd but people would wait for someone "stronger " in the truth to even greet ME!

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    It is strange when a group of people you've known for years collectively ignore you. We had this experience earlier today, when we were taking our dog out this morning and a group of jws, some of whom I have known for well over 20 years, all turned their backs on us. We are both da'd, so it wasn't unexpected, but it was a bit like watching synchronised swimming - they all moved at the same time. We both found it quite amusing, and slowed down as we approached them. They looked relieved when we went past, and were very quiet, whilst we were chatting away. I don't think I was ever like that.

  • misanthropic
    misanthropic

    Yeah it is weird, and very rude. I would like to think I was never like that, but the truth is I'm sure I was when I was still "in". I'm just glad to be out and have a mind of my own now.

    There is a place here I stop in quite a bit to grab a cup of coffee and almost every time, like clockwork I run into a group of elders (all of who just stare at me the entire time until I leave). The last few times I've gone earlier. They saw me and instead of coming in they loaded back up in their car and drove off. I guess I'm a scary person...LOL. And I was never DA'd or DF'd either.

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    The most important thing to a JW is to not get in trouble with their leadership. To accomplish that you must not get caught doing anything defined as "bad" such as talking to a former member.

    I believe that if you catch a JW alone, they may act more normal if they believe they won't get "caught" talking to a former member they know.

    I've been shunned by groups of JW's. But one time when I talked one of my parent's best friends (a JW) and her non-JW husband (and no other JW's were around), she talked to me just like when I was a member.

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff
    There is a place here I stop in quite a bit to grab a cup of coffee and almost every time, like clockwork I run into a group of elders (all of who just stare at me the entire time unil I leave). The last few times I've gone earlier. They saw me and instead of coming in even, they loaded back up in their car and drove off. I guess I'm a scary person...LOL. And I was never DA'd or DF'd either.

    Yes indeed, Missanthropic. The witnesses used to come into this coffee shop all the time. They recognize my vehicle and the normal days I will be there I think, now. Today I was in a different car, due to a breakdown of the one I usually drive. And today is normally a workday for me, but I took the day off. Otherwise I am sure they would have just stopped somewhere else, rather than encounter such a beast as myself face-to-face.

    Funny how they could associate with me for 40 years without carrying a gun isn't it?

    Jeff

  • parakeet
    parakeet

    I was never DFed, but a few years after my fade, I caught sight of a sister in a restaurant who, when she saw me, literally turned her head away and put her nose up in the air. She looked so ridiculous I started laughing and that's been my reaction to snubbing ever since.

  • Honesty
    Honesty
    I've been shunned by groups of JW's. But one time when I talked one of my parent's best friends (a JW) and her non-JW husband (and no other JW's were around), she talked to me just like when I was a member. Gopher


    I just had to throw in my 2 cents worth...

    Yesterday, I went to see a friend in the hospital and in 'walks' a RN (Registered Nurse for my Aussie friends benefit) to check some of his vital signs.

    She looked like death warmed over... She had such a sad and dejected look on her face. She wasn't really 'walking', more like shuffling along. Her hair looked absolutely awful. The style was modern and artfully cut but her hair looked 'dead' if you know what I mean. I immediately thought to myself, "This poor woman is being abused by someone she loves."

    As my friend and I continued talking, I noticed she was giving me sidelong glances. Especially when I mentioned "Evangelism Rally" or " Daryl, the Lord has really blessed and strengthened you while this disease has progressed from bad to worse." did she almost stare at me. My friend has some very serious health issues and is a few years younger than myself but his face is what Paul would call 'aglow with the Spirit.'

    Finally, it dawned on me who this dejected and worn-out shell of a human being was. Her husband's brother and I had been best of friends for almost 30 years until I walked away from a mind-numbing and hateful cult that is preoccupied with the death and destruction of almost 100% of humankind. Her husband, step-son and I used to hike the mountains on weekends together while she worked at the hospital. I had not seen her since my father-in-law died in 1999 and his body was transported to the Emergency Room where she was a head trauma nurse.

    This woman had aged at least 50 years in less than 10.

    I looked at her and said, 'Don't I know you?"

    She said, "You are Bob E." to which I replied, "Yes, and you are Nancy O."

    She looked pretty uncomfortable with speaking to me so I tried to put her at ease and said, "Daryl's son and parents are members of the same church where I am a member."

    She immediatley grabs her supplies and scurries out of the room like a woman of 20 instead of in her 40's who looks almost 90.

    Daryl turns to me and says, "What was that all about. What did you say to scare her so bad."

    It all became clear to him when I mentioned that she is trapped in the same mind-numbing, death proclaiming, destructive and abusive cult that the Lord saved me out of in 2004.

    It also became clear to me why she has aged so much in less than 10 years. The appearance of a flock of sheep can be determined by examining one of them. It is so obvious when the entire flock is sick that when a person sees one of them all by its lonesome you can't help but wonder just how bad does the shepherd misuse his authority over them that their countenance appears so deathly.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    So you are for them a marked person from what you are saying, the FDS doesn't want them to talk with apostates because that will soon open their eyes and they will abandon the org.

    The sheepish R&F can't see how they are being manipulated and controlled.

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