ghosts - UFO's?

by jolly_green_giant 29 Replies latest jw friends

  • jolly_green_giant
    jolly_green_giant

    Just wondering if anyone here has ever a supernatural experience.. whether it be seeing a ghost/angel/demon, UFO encounter.. etc..

  • TR
    TR

    nope.

    TR

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
    —Edmund Burke

  • Princess
    Princess

    My son took a picture last summer of me and my daughter next to the tv. When we had it developed, there is a big spooky looking face on the tv screen. The tv was not on at the time. The face is not one that would be a tv show anyway. It fills the whole screen and I'm telling you, it's creeeeepy. Looks alot like my dead father in law. I try not to look at it to often. Just can't explain it.

    Princess

  • Stephanus
    Stephanus

    My wife sees that kind of crap all the time (quite often they're stationary stars or aeroplanes!) - the only time I ever saw the same UFO she did was when I had this really bad fever - I'd been having hot and cold flushes, visions and babbling in tongues (gibberish) for two days, and then I saw her UFO. I've never seen it since.

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    I can confirm what Princess says. It is a really weird image too. It's a man's face, and he is wearing dark rimmed glasses, and it fills the screen, and obviously isn't a TV image. Really spooky.

    Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)

  • ChuckD
    ChuckD

    Can I assume that you used a flash when you took this photo, since it was indoors?

  • Mommie Dark
    Mommie Dark

    My son and I saw an unexplained group of lights in the sky one night, a string of evenly-spaced white lights moving west to east just above the horizon.

    Years later we saw film of a very similar phenom on tv. The military says the lights on film were flares. Apparently there was quite a flap between independent analysts and official military spokespersons because spectral analysis of the film shows the lights are not flares... go figure...but what we saw in TX was identical to the lights on that AZ film from over ten years later.

    All I know about the lights we saw is that they made no noticeable sound, moved at the same steady clip from west to east without changing altitide, and never deviated from their formation. They were NOT flares.

    This happened during the Army's Golden Saber exercises in TX, there were military vehicles and aircraft swarming the county at the time, and the lights we saw appeared during the first nighttime skirmish of the exercise, shortly after the helicopters moved out from the bases to the selected battlefield north of town. We always assumed it was some military vehicle, although it certainly wasn't anything we saw at the airport or other sites during the gladhanding community tours. Whatever it was, it wsa not moving toward the skirmish site.

    Unexplained but probably not unexplainable.

  • bboyneko
    bboyneko

    Well as for UFO's, I don't think aliens would come to earth and fly around so boviously, and only in secluded backwoods areas. Why would they even need to fly around? Id say their technology would be advanced enough they could observe us from space and if they needed samples im sure theyd have some sort of advanced cloaking tyechnology so noone would see them.

    I think it's more likley that most UFO sightings are classified government experimental aircraft. Anyone ever hear of the hutchingson effect?

    It's some sort of possible effect wherin physical objects levitate and fuse with one athor while still maintaining form. There are rumors that it has already been achieved and that is the technology behind Government UFO stuff. But as far as I know anti-gravity vehicles arent gonna happen until we decide what exactly the hell gravity is to begin with.

    As for ghosts I belong to a ghost hunting club, and I just wanna see for myself it they are real. So far id say its possible But i havent experienced a haunting.

    -Dan

  • TR
    TR

    Princess,

    would you please post your pic?

    TR

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
    —Edmund Burke

  • bboyneko
    bboyneko

    Hutchinson Effect

    The Hutchison Effect -- An Explanation
    by Mark A. Solis

    People often ask, "What exactly is the Hutchison Effect?" This brief essay is an attempt to answer that question to the satisfaction of the majority.
    First of all, the Hutchison Effect is a collection of
    phenomena which were discovered accidentally by John Hutchison
    during attempts to study the longitudinal waves of Tesla back
    in 1979. In other words, the Hutchison Effect is not simply a
    singular effect. It is many.
    The Hutchison Effect occurs as the result of radio wave
    interferences in a zone of spatial volume encompassed by high
    voltage sources, usually a Van de Graff generator, and two or
    more Tesla coils.
    The effects produced include levitation of heavy objects,
    fusion of dissimilar materials such as metal and wood (exactly
    as portrayed in the movie, "The Philadelphia Experiment"), the
    anomalous heating of metals without burning adjacent material,
    spontaneous fracturing of metals (which separate by sliding in
    a sideways fashion), and both temporary and permanent changes
    in the crystalline structure and physical properties of metals.
    The levitation of heavy objects by the Hutchison Effect
    is not---repeat not---the result of simple electrostatic or
    electromagnetic levitation. Claims that these forces alone
    can explain the phenomenon are patently ridiculous, and easily
    disproved by merely trying to use such methods to duplicate
    what the Hutchison Effect has achieved, which has been well
    documented both on film and videotape, and has been witnessed
    many times by numerous credentialed scientists and engineers.
    Challengers should note that their apparatus must be limited
    to the use of 75 Watts of power from a 120 Volt AC outlet, as
    that is all that is used by Hutchison's apparatus to levitate
    a 60-pound cannon ball.
    The fusion of dissimilar materials, which is exceedingly
    remarkable, indicates clearly that the Hutchison Effect has a
    powerful influence on Van der Waals forces. In a striking and
    baffling contradiction, dissimilar substances can simply "come
    together," yet the individual substances do not dissociate. A
    block of wood can simply "sink into" a metal bar, yet neither
    the metal bar nor the block of wood come apart. Also, there
    is no evidence of displacement, such as would occur if, for
    example, one were to sink a stone into a bowl of water.
    The anomalous heating of metal without any evidence of
    burning or scorching of the adjacent materials (usually wood)
    is a clear indication that possibly the nature of heat may not
    be completely understood. This has far-reaching implications
    for thermodynamics, which hinges entirely on the presumption
    of such knowledge. It should be noted that the entirety of
    thermodynamics is represented by the infrared portion of the
    electromagnetic spectrum, which is insignificant in a context
    of 0 Hz to infinite Hz. The anomalous heating exhibited by
    the Hutchison Effect shows plainly that we have much to learn,
    especially where thermodynamics and electromagnetism meet.
    The spontaneous fracturing of metals, as occurs with the
    Hutchison Effect, is unique for two reasons: (1) there is no
    evidence of an "external force" causing the fracturing, and
    (2) the method by which the metal separates involves a sliding
    motion in a sideways direction, horizontally. The metal simply
    comes apart.
    Some temporary changes in the crystalline structure and
    physical properties of metals are somewhat reminiscent of the
    "spoon bending" of Uri Geller, except that there is no one near
    the metal samples when the changes take place. One video shows
    a spoon flapping up and down like a limp rag in a stiff breeze.
    In the case of permanent changes, a metal bar will be hard at
    one end, like steel, and soft at the other end, like powdered
    lead. Again, this is evidence of strong influence on Van der
    Waals forces.
    The radio wave interferences involved in producing these
    effects are produced from as many as four and five different
    radio sources, all operating at low power. However, the zone
    in which the interferences take place is stressed by hundreds
    of kilovolts.
    It is surmised by some researchers that what Hutchison
    has done is tap into the Zero Point Energy. This energy gets
    its name from the fact that it is evidenced by oscillations
    at zero degrees Kelvin, where supposedly all activity in an
    atom ceases. The energy is associated with the spontaneous
    emission and annihilation of electrons and positrons coming
    from what is called "the quantum vacuum." The density of the
    energy contained in the quantum vacuum is estimated by some at
    ten to the thirteenth Joules per cubic centimeter, which is
    reportedly sufficient to boil off the Earth's oceans in a
    matter of moments.
    Given access to such energies, it is small wonder that
    the Hutchison Effect produces such bizarre phenomena. At the
    present time, the phenomena are difficult to reproduce with
    any regularity. The focus for the future, then, is first to
    increase the frequency of occurence of the effects, then to
    achieve some degree of precision in their control.
    The work is continuing at this time. Before long, we
    shall see what progress can be made.

    Shreveport, Louisiana
    February 16, 1999

    Copyright (c) 1999 by Mark A. Solis

    Very odd, I donno if I beleive this is possible or not. ANyone out there know enough about physics and electromagnetism to debunk this?

    more:

    Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 2:41 PM
    Subject: [FG]: Hutchinson effect

    > I was lucky enough to attend the INE'94
    > where John Hutchinson and George Hathaway gave
    > a joint presentation about the Hutchinson effect(s).
    > This was truly the most amazing presentation
    > and set of information I've ever experienced.
    > G. Hathaway is a consulting engineer (EE) in
    > Canada, and worked with Hutchinson for some time
    > to help quantify the effects or learn how to make
    > them more reliable (that program was a failure)
    > and to generate external interest, for further
    > research support.
    > George H showed some of the videos of
    > the effects, the levitations being quite mind-
    > boggling, ranging from globs of ice cream pulling
    > out of a container an flying up, to a very heavy
    > cannon ball floating about 18" off the wooden
    > surface and occasionally rotating a bit - quite
    > errie!
    > John H presented as well, from his point
    > of view of tuning the apparatus, which was always
    > a sort of feeling thing which he had to settle
    > into - he apparantly can sense the fields/ions
    > and has learned how to get the apparatus into
    > its 'groove'. Even so, it may take him days to
    > get the equipment to respond. Who knows what
    > external variables go into it, such as humidity.
    > Particularly interesting were the descriptions
    > of effects on materials, mostly metals. Some alloys
    > would start so separate into layers of distinct elements.
    > Steel rods would break apart with no heating effects.
    > Several of the materials were brought along for
    > inspection by the attendees. I held a standard
    > extruded bar of aluminum, normal except for the
    > piece of wood which was now embedded in it, the
    > latter not having been heated to charring, nor
    > the aluminum showing signs of melting. Another
    > aluminum bar had been milled down to the stainless
    > steel table knife which was now half embedded in
    > the bar, again with no evidence of melting in
    > the case of the aluminum. A copper bus bar
    > had expended in the center into 4 separate
    > bars joining at each end.
    > The whole presentation was impressive
    > and left no doubt that here is a wide range
    > of effects, presently 'unknown', of electromagnetics
    > on various materials. Possibly this goes beyond
    > EM, involving the researcher's consciousness as
    > well, as only when John H was present did the
    > machinery ever fully produce the effects. On
    > the other hand, John had learned to tune the
    > equipment over the course of many years.
    > Also pointed out was the the lab was
    > a pack rat's accumulation of every possible
    > electromagnetic device. John H was always
    > inclined to add more equipment, not pare it
    > down to hone in on the component sources of
    > the effect. Just his nature - having fun!
    > The proceedings of this are available:
    > http://www.padrak.com/ine/INE5.html
    > as well as the videos/audios of the
    > conference. The list shows Hutchinson only,
    > but both he and Hathaway presented. (Hathaway
    > also had another presentation). So, I don't
    > know if the videos are separate for their
    > two halves of the Hutchinson material, as
    > I haven't ordered the videos.
    > Jim

    Apparantly, you can order a video of the conference and see for yourself floating cannon balls..i might just order this :)
    -Dan

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