Elders comment regarding "apostates" at WTS 3 weeks ago

by XBEHERE 22 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Elsewhere
    He basically said that these opposers will even use WT literature to draw you away from Jehovah but they use it out of context and misquote it.

    Yet they NEVER seem to be able to provide an example of this.

    Tell him to put up or shut up.

  • unclebruce
    Witness "context", really should read "compartment". Witnesses write and think in compartments, hermetically sealed rooms. The reason they HAVE to stay in those compartments is, they do not practice equal application of principle. Ray Franz uses the good example of Witnesses allowing blood substitution while not allowing military employment substitution. They said for military employment, substitution equals equivalency . . . but for blood medical treatment substitution does NOT equal equivalency.

    Those quotes HAVE to be used only in their "compartments" or they don't make sense. That's what Witnesses are talking about when they say context. Context does not mean context.

    Very interesting Gary,

    I've never seen it that way before, thankyou .

  • DannyHaszard

    I used to hear these buzzwords "old light"

    "that was old light"

    "we don't use that book anymore it's old light"

    Yes,i use to hear these code words several times a week in the Haszard household back in the late 1950's early 1960's.

    The more things change in dub land the more they stay the same...-Danny Haszard

  • atypical

    Does it ever occur to them that they are wasting their time, because the information they are studying now will be "old light" some day?

  • DannyHaszard

    "new light flip-flop means old light is bull shit" Ahhhh,these were my last words to an elder as i walked out the door January 5 1992

  • Leolaia

    It's an easy and common defense. How many times have we seen a public figure make an embarrassing racist or sexist remark who then defends himself by saying that his remarks were "taken out of context"?

    By saying this, the Society can deny the import of the words without having to explain what they meant in the given quote. That they themselves quote scholars "out of context" to support their doctrines is a well-documented fact.

  • Sunnygal41
    They practice a form of censorship already. On the WT Library cdrom the WT's only go back to 1950 and the Awakes to 1970. If you are seen to be reading older literature its "suspicious".

    That is because when you DO read the older stuff, you begin to realize what kind of stuff they used to believe in, that in turn begins to make you think about what kind of organization you've gotten involved in..........it's all about control, plain and simple.

  • hartstrings

    Leo, I agree. I think that is why the society makes the dubs avoid making ANY comments to the media.

  • sf

    Back in the day, when the yahoo jehovah's witnesses 'user rooms' were still up, jws could not comprehend why an apostate { yours truly } was cutting and pasting the weekly wt study articles and other various articles that are on their official site. It drove them nuts!

    My simple reply always was, "someone had to do it, since none of the you, professed jws were doing it." I'd then quote the infamous Feb. 15, 2005 wt which stated in question form "as far as being here with known apostates, are you wise or stupid"? LOL. That just pissed them off more. They spent most of their online time there wishing our deaths, and that of our children, at the hands of their wt god. Go figure.

    Damn, those were the days.


  • darth frosty
    darth frosty

    I once had a person tell me that I was cheating him at UNO (the card game) by using the rules (which I had taken out of the box to show him what I meant.) some people no matter what you show, tell, or beat them across the head with will never believe what they were hit with. A person convinced against his will (or the WTS's), is of his own oppinon still.

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