Writing academic/scholarly papers

by Lady Lee 28 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974
    the biggest issue on academic and scholarly style I have with the WTBTS is quoting out of context or selectively and then not giving FULL references so they can be checked and peer reviewed

    I am going to run the risk of sounding disrespectful here but it needs to be said. The WTBTS will only cite authority on a subject where they think it will add credibility to their statement; most of their literature is pitched at people of lower intelligence who wont question what they have read; thats the reason why they get away with writing such drivel. Should an academic write an article without citing references and authorities he would be mocked and would be committing suicide professionally, but of course the WTBT societies long stance on education has prevented or at least reduced the risk of their magazines being held up to any real constructive criticism. DB74

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    most of their literature is pitched at people of lower intelligence who wont question what they have read; thats the reason why they get away with writing such drivel.

    What embarrasses me is, that for so long I did not question what I read - whereas in normal everyday life and at work, I always do

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee
    the biggest issue on academic and scholarly style I have with the WTBTS is quoting out of context or selectively and then not giving FULL references so they can be checked and peer reviewed

    gasp And risk being found out!!!! OMG DB

    The WTBTS will only cite authority on a subject where they think it will add credibility to their statement;

    I'm not sure that is true. I think they pick and choose what they can twist to make themselves appear correct and that "others" support their beliefs. It is a false argument especially when they misrepresent what the original author stated. They establish their credibility invoking the name Jehovah as the editor of the WTS.

    most of their literature is pitched at people of lower intelligence who wont question what they have read; thats the reason why they get away with writing such drivel.

    "lower intelligence"? I guess you missed the post earlier that someone on this thread made stating he was almost finished is post secondary education (forgot which he said). If you go by most of the posters here who have left the organization after YEARS of believing the teachings, I would never classify anyone here of "lower intelligence" Actually, I am in awe of some of the minds that posts here both now and previously. I was a high school drop-out (not of my choosing). I left the WTS for reasons other than the lack of intellectual stimulation. I was still a believer when I went to college and university. It wasn't until I almost finished my BA that I accidentally started to question the WTS' teachings. And I was the kid who was always told I would never amount to anything because I was too stupid. I blew that myth apart graduating with honors from my college program.

    Should an academic write an article without citing references and authorities he would be mocked and would be committing suicide professionally, but of course the WTBT societies long stance on education has prevented or at least reduced the risk of their magazines being held up to any real constructive criticism.

    absolutely yes

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee
    What embarrasses me is, that for so long I did not question what I read - whereas in normal everyday life and at work, I always do

    Slap the name of God on the writing and who would dare question God? I really think that is the source of the unquestionning acceptance of what ever the WTS publishes. It has nothing to do with intelligence or education.

    Heck there are JW lawyers who had to get through law school and pass the bar exams. They still can't see it, or maybe they just choose not to.

    The WTS does target a wide range of people, few of whom have any real knowledge of religion, even if they do go to church. The WTS presents a watered down that few of those people who be able to contest with solid evidence. When I got baptized eons ago, there was a huge Catholic Church on the corner. The JWs used to take great delight in approaching the priest whil ehe was out on his walks and trying to preach to him. Of course it never worked. They were talking to someone who actually did go to Divintiy school and knew what he was talking about. And of course he shut the JWs down pretty quickly with a few pointed questions. And then the JWs would walk away making fun of someone who really did undertand more about religion than they did.

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974
    lower intelligence

    Actually, poor choice of words perhaps the above should be replaced by 'lesser educated' as that is more accurate; apologies for any offence to anyone.

    I am perfectly aware that lack of education does not mean lack of intelligence...again poor choice of words!

    DB74

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Thanks for the clarification DB74

    No harm done

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974
    No harm done

    thank goodness....I thought I would be in for a right bashing...and deservedly so!

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee
    I thought I would be in for a right bashing...

    Only if you pulled a WTism.... deny, lie, deny

  • NYCkid
    NYCkid

    Actually stillajwexelder summed up my greatest complaint with the WTBTS publications when he says:

    The biggest issue on academic and scholarly style I have with the WTBTS is quoting out of context or selectively and then not giving FULL references so they can be checked and peer reviewed

    An example of quoting out of context can be found in the October 1, 2005 "The Watchtower," page 29, under the title, "What Is the Value of Higher Education?":

    "While today's typical job requires higher skills than in the past...,the skills required for these jobs are strong high school-level skills-math, reading, and writing at a ninth-grade level...,not college-level skills....Students do not need to go to college to get a good job, but they do need to master height school-level skills." - American Educator, Spring 2004."

    Incidentally, the article is clearly one sided or in other words what the industry would consider, "advocacy writing," meaning the magazine is written with a specific viewpoint and to persuade the reader to accept its viewpoint (no surprise there). I find the assertions in the WT article startling to say the least and there is no attempt by "The Watchtower" to mention the virtues and benefits of a college education.

    I located the article online and pasted it below. I can't imagine any reputable publication would say that a ninth grade education is sufficient for most jobs.

    Below is the article in that "The Watchtower" quoted from in the paragraph that starts with "Second":

    All Good Jobs Don't Require a College Degree...But getting a good job without a college degree depends a lot on high school effort--and the support a high school provides.

    By James E. Rosenbaum

    Encouraging students to attend college despite their poor academic preparation is a practice based in part on the premise that all decent jobs require a college education. Although average earnings are higher for those with college degrees (Carnevale and Desrochers, 2002), it is easy to misread these numbers.

    First, these averages conceal much variation. College degrees do not always have payoffs. And, college degrees are not required to enter many rewarding jobs, including construction trades, clerical and administrative support, auto and airplane mechanics, printing, graphics, financial services, and many government and social services. Union electricians, machinists, tool and die makers, and sheet-metal workers, for instance, have high-demand skills, excellent benefits, good working conditions, and annual salaries that often exceed $45,000 by age 28 (and are much higher with overtime).

    Second, researchers who analyze jobs and talk to employers find that while today’s typical job requires higher skills than in the past (when many jobs required only physical strength), the skills required for these jobs are strong high school-level skills--math, reading, and writing at a ninth-grade level (Murnane and Levy, 1996), not college-level skills. Similarly, new research on the skills needed for many good jobs (meaning those that pay enough to support a family and have the potential for advancement) are also high school-level skills, such as four years of English and mathematics through Algebra II (American Diploma Project, 2004). Unfortunately, over 40 percent of high-school seniors lack ninth-grade math skills and 60 percent lack ninth-grade reading skills (Murnane and Levy, 1996). So students do not need to go to college to get a good job, but they do need to master high school-level skills. Research shows that greater mastery of these skills in high school leads to higher earnings over time: For youth who get no college degree, a rise of one letter grade in their high school grade point average (from C to B) is associated with a 13 percent earnings gain at age 28! That’s almost as much as the pay differential associated with a bachelor’s degree, which is just over 14 percent more than students without a college degree (Miller, 1998; Rosenbaum, 2001). Solid high school skills prepare students for entry-level positions and keep the door to promotions open (Rosenbaum, 2001).

    Third, employers report that for many jobs, non-academic skills (like timeliness, diligence, and social competence) are key (Shapiro and Iannozzi, 1999). Analyses of a national survey indicate that students’ educational attainment and earnings nine years after graduating from high school are significantly related to their non-cognitive behaviors in high school--sociability, discipline, leadership, homework time, and attendance--even after controlling for background characteristics and academic achievement (Rosenbaum, 2001). High schools can provide these skills just as well as colleges can.

    Fourth, for some low-achieving high school students, getting a good job after high school can be more lucrative than trying to earn a college degree. As we saw in the main article, only about 14 percent of students with C averages or lower in high school earn a college degree (B.A. or A.A.). Of these low-GPA high school students, those who do complete a B.A. will typically earn 4.3 percent more than students without a college degree--but this is less than one-third the extra earnings that the typical college graduate enjoys. Those with low high school GPAs who earn an A.A. will typically earn 7.2 percent less than high school graduates with no college degree (Rosenbaum, 2001).

    So the vast majority of students who don’t do well in high school would be better off, in terms of future income, finding a good job than going to college. But their ability to find out about these jobs, prepare for them, and get placed in them depends a lot on the support they get from their high school. Indeed, vocational teachers report that they are able to help students get jobs, even students from disadvantaged backgrounds or with disabilities. They can accomplish this because they provide employers with trusted recommendations about students’ social skills and work habits.

    Currently, about 9 percent of work-bound high school graduates get jobs after graduation through school-based job placement (mostly from vocational teachers). These students have 17 percent higher earnings by age 28 than students who find their own jobs after high school (Rosenbaum, 2001). Moreover, school-based job placement helps more blacks and females than white males (Rosenbaum 2001), so it helps students who normally have the greatest difficulties in the labor market.

    The true lesson of the new labor market is this: For many of the skilled jobs in the new economy, what students really need is to acquire good work habits and solid high school-level skills. But, employers argue that they cannot trust that the high school diploma certifies knowledge of these high school-level skills. As a result, employers report using college degrees to signal that applicants possess high school skills. If, instead, the high schools provided trusted signals of high school competencies, the pressure to send all students to college could diminish. And let’s not forget that high schools can do a lot to help their non-college bound youth find productive jobs and lead fulfilling lives.

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