by jambon 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • jambon

    i am a m/s in a cong but i have been in the truth 10 years and believed it for only 3. I have so many issues but mainly;

    i just dont believe that jehovahs way of handling the `issue` is the best way, which means i dont believe in him or love him any more. I recently had kids and i cant face any harm coming there way - like most, i would kill for them if anyone posed a harm, so what is jehovah doing??

    little children shot/gassed in the holocaust, little children watching their fathers getting shot in the holocaust. tsunami waves sweeping away thousands of children.



    yes, having my beutiful kids changed me. but how can i get out. i am 29, my extra family are not in the truth, my wife and 2 kids are. HELP.

    i have anounced to her my decision to leave the truth 2 times, but have gone back.

    - how do i do this, i want out, out, out. i want to be who i am

  • Legolas

    Sitting on his azz doing absolutely nothing while the world suffers!

    Welcome to the board!

    You can do the fade thing or disassociate yourself!

  • AlmostAtheist

    I hope your post can get viewed. Without a subject, you have to click the little "threaded view" thingy.

    It can be hard to understand how a loving God could allow all the bad things mankind has experienced. Particularly natural disasters that are not in anyway man's fault.

    It leads some (like me) to dismiss the idea of God altogether. Others are comfortable assuming he has his reasons for allowing it all and he'll explain it eventually.

    For now, getting yourself out of JW's will be hard enough. what spiritual path you pursue from there will be up to you. That's an empowering feeling in itself.

    There are ways to do it that might help you bring your wife out with you. Take your time, you don't need to rush it. If you found yourself in a medical emergency with your kids, the doctors would surely give them blood on your parental authority. So there's no immediate need to tip your hand.

    Here's an article about using the Watchtower's own tactics to help your family see the real truth about JW's: http://www.freeminds.org/psych/exithelp.htm

    Please read it over. And give yourself permission to slow down, relax, and take it a step at a time.

    How old are your children? Mine were 6 and almost-born when I got out. Fortunately, my wife was ready to get out, too. We left together.

    Welcome to the forum! And feel free to vent to your heart's content!


  • inbyathread

    Jambon - First of all welcome to this forum. There are many, many here who either are feeling or have felt what you are going through.

    You could read the literally thousands of posts of difficulties that ones here have gone through in their endeavors to "get out". You however, are the one to decide when the time is right.

    It isn't God's fault about the deaths of children and mothers and fathers in the wars and it isn't his fault because of a tsunami.

    If you were a 'good little witness', you would belive that you and your family would be protected by Jehovah when armageddon comes. However you did mention that you

    just dont believe that jehovahs way of handling the `issue` is the best way, which means i dont believe in him or love him any more. I recently had kids and i cant face any harm coming there way - like most, i would kill for them if anyone posed a harm, so what is jehovah doing??

    May I interject a thought here. Perhaps it is not Jehovah, but the Society that you question.

    The societies false prophesies, their placing themselves in the position that only Jesus should be in. Remember that they are wanting (requiring) our complete trust in the Faithful and Discreet Slave. When was the last time you heard that we should put our complete trust in Jehovah or his son Jesus?

    Before you do anything. Stop. Breath and read the info here and at your local library about high control groups. That way you can make the best decisions for your family. I firmly believe that Jehovah will not destroy you or your family because of some thugs in suits at a kingdumb hall.

    We are here for you and your children. Write when you have time. We look forward to hearing from you again.


  • garybuss

    I left the lie once.

  • Shazard

    WHAT IS GOD DOING??? Getting his flock out of demonic cult!

  • rebel8

    Here is an excellent link for you: http://www.freeminds.org/psych/exithelp.htm

  • daniel-p

    Jambon, welcome to the forum. Take it easy, don't rush anything. I too am a ministerial servant and have a family. Everyone else in my life are very active jw's and none of them know of my weak faith except my wife. Sometimes it's really hard - I think about it all the time - but I just try to remmber that Time will solve many things and settle matters without me worrying overmuch. Stick around, these forums are very open and there are a lot of helpful, loving people here who have been through what we have. It gets easier... I can sense myself finding my own answers to a lot of my questions. I think that's a big key - not looking beyond ourselves for life's answers.

  • Apostate Kate
    Apostate Kate


    Welcome to the Forum. You will find friendship and understanding hearts here. We are united by our experiences in the WTBTS. Let it all out. I remember feeling the same feelings as you when my children were little. I did not know how I would keep them safe in this terribly frightful world.

    They are grown now and doing well, made it through and have blessed me with grandchildren. For me personally, I believe the world is in such chaos because of one thing; sin. Corruption. Rust. Evil. Darkenss, it is here. It is ugly, but don't ever lose hope in tomorrow. There is a Light in the darkenss. Wishing you much Light~Love, Kate

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