The Generation of 1914 fading away - Armisitice Day

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  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    While the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society continues to support it's 1914 doctrine, in the new Young People Ask video and its magazines, one can't help but wonder if they notice world events that challenge their chronology...

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/11/11/ever_fewer_wwi_veterans_mark_the_armistice_of_1918/?rss_id=Boston+Globe+--+National+News

    Ever fewer, WWI veterans mark the Armistice of 1918

    Only about 50 thought still alive

    By Douglass K. Daniel, Associated Press | November 11, 2005

    WASHINGTON -- Lloyd Brown remembers Armistice Day in 1918 as few -- ever so few -- veterans can. ''For the servicemen there were lots of hugs and kisses," recalls Brown, of Charlotte Hall, Md., a teenage seaman aboard the battleship USS New Hampshire, in port stateside when the fighting stopped. ''We were so happy that the war was over."

    Now 104, Brown adds, ''There's not too many of us around any more."

    No one knows exactly how many of the country's World War I veterans will celebrate Veterans Day, which marks the armistice of Nov. 11, 1918, that ended what then was considered the Great War. An estimated 2 million Americans served in Europe after the United States entered the war in 1917.

    Today, the Veterans Affairs Department lists just eight veterans as receiving disability benefits or pension compensation from service in World War I. It says a few dozen other veterans of the war probably are alive, too, but the government does not keep a comprehensive list.

    The Census Bureau stopped asking for data about those veterans years ago. Using a report of 65,000 alive in 1990 as a baseline, the VA estimates that no more than 50 remain, perhaps as few as 30.

    World War I, fueled by intense nationalism and conflicting economic and colonial interests, began in the Balkans in 1914 and quickly spread across Europe because of military alliances. The major allied powers were Great Britain, France, and Russia, and they were opposed by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and a few others.

    The United States remained neutral even as Germany threatened its shipping and as anti-German sentiment grew among Americans. Congress declared war on Germany in April 1917 at the urging of President Woodrow Wilson. ''The world must be made safe for democracy," Wilson said.

    More than 10 million troops died before the war ended with Germany's surrender. Of the US troops, more than 116,000 died and more than 200,000 were wounded.

    Long-lived veterans are common among America's warriors. The last veteran to fight in the American Revolution died at age 109 in 1869, according to Defense Department statistics.

    Other wars and the ages of their last veterans the year they died: the War of 1812, 105, 1905; the Indian Wars, 101, 1973; the Mexican War, 98, 1929; the Civil War, 112, 1958; and the Spanish-American War, 106, 1992.

    The ranks of all World War I veterans grow thinner as the months pass. One of France's seven remaining veterans died two weeks ago, and the last Australian to serve in a war zone died a week earlier.

    In the United States, the last known American veteran wounded in the war died at 108 in January 2004. West Virginia's last veteran passed away in October 2004, and Iowa lost its only remaining Great War veteran two months later. An Alabama veteran of the war died last March at 110.

    With each death, what was called ''the war to end all wars" fades more in American memory.

    ''It's a war that's out of mind," says Sean Flynn, who teaches World War I history at Dakota Wesleyan University in Mitchell, S.D. ''The US entered it late and we have no real connection to it."

    Unlike the wars that followed, World War I doesn't have the visual record so important to becoming part of American consciousness, Flynn says. Yet its impact can be linked to many problems facing the world today, including conflict in the Balkans and the rise of Arab nationalism after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

    ''We learn about war through television and through film," Flynn says. ''There's just not a lot of moving-picture footage of World War I."

    Lloyd Brown spends little time thinking about the days his ship escorted convoys in North Atlantic waters threatened by German submarines. Living alone in a house in southern Maryland, just a few blocks from his daughter, Nancy, he does not believe that his war has been forgotten and feels satisfied with the attention paid to its veterans over the years.

    ''You can't celebrate World War I year after year after year, because there are other events taking place," says Brown, who watches the news daily to keep up with the world. ''You have to honor them."

  • Dune
    Dune

    I think that in 2014. The society will have a hard time validating those who claim to be the remnant.

  • Shakita
    Shakita

    I read that article yesterday TS and I was impressed with the miniscule number of veterans that are left from The Great War. The WT claimed that the generation that witnessed the invisible return of Christ in 1914 would not have to die before Christ took action against the wicked. Rutherford claimed that millions then living would never die. Well Mr dear Rutherford, you are really, really dead. And the millions then living that you claimed would never die from the 1914 generation are almost entirely really, really dead. They are not just merely dead, they are most sincerely dead!

    No doubt, the WT will soon do what Carl Sagan predicted in one of his books. I loosely paraphrase: "Did we (The WT) say 1914, oh!, we really meant 2014." You can be sure that a bolt of lightning from the blue will strike the geriatric squad at WT headquarters and strike one of those oldsters in the caboose. He will jump up from his wheelchair and peep that Gawd has enlightened me with new light. Hey all you WT kiddies, 2014 is the new death date when God will destroy billions and billions of people. YAY! Ain't that good news all you dupes?

    Mr. Shakita

  • blondie
    blondie

    Counting Down the WT Way

    *** g84 10/22 p. 7 The Countdown Nears Its End! ***

    The

    Vanishing Generation of 1914

    In the United States, Great Britain and Japan, about one third of the people who were alive in 1914 died between the years 1970 and 1980.

    Of all the people alive in 1914, only about 15 percent worldwide were still alive in 1980. How much time can possibly be left before ‘this generation passes away’?

    *** g88 4/8 p. 13 The Last Days—What’s Next? ***

    How

    Long Can a Generation Last?

    The American Legion Magazine pointed out that 4,743,826 U.S. men and women had participated in World War I. But in 1984 only 272,000 remained alive, and they were dying off at an average of nine every hour. Does that mean, then, that the generation of 1914 has already disappeared?

    ***

    g94 11/8 pp. 28-29 Watching the World ***

    The

    1914 Generation

    Only 272,000 of the 4,743,826 U.S. men and women who participated in World War I were alive in 1984. (Awake!, April 8, 1988) Today that number, according to the Department of Veterans Affairs, has dwindled to an estimated 30,000, and their median age is 95. Worldwide, however, in 1992 there were still 61,486,000 persons living of the generation born in 1914 or prior to it.

    Until 1994

    *** km 10/93 p. 8 Using Our Magazines From House to House ***

    The purpose of Awake! is stated clearly on page 4 of each issue: "This magazine builds confidence in the Creator’s promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away.

    ***

    w97 6/1 p. 28 Questions From Readers ***

    So the recent information in The Watchtower about "this generation" did not change our understanding of what occurred in 1914. But it did give us a clearer grasp of Jesus’ use of the term "generation," helping us to see that his usage was no basis for calculating—counting from 1914—how close to the end we are.

  • Dune
    Dune

    *** w97 6/1 p. 28 Questions From Readers ***

    So the recent information in The Watchtower about "this generation" did not change our understanding of what occurred in 1914. But it did give us a clearer grasp of Jesus’ use of the term "generation," helping us to see that his usage was no basis for calculating—counting from 1914—how close to the end we are.


    That quote killed me right there :-(

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    World Population statistics here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/101716/1755869/post.ashx#1755869

    Drops from 10.7 million to 265,000 within one decade.

    Survival of those who saw 1914 who were adult males (per Jewish estimate of >= 30 years old) is 0.

    Survival of those who saw 1914 who were >= 19 is < 30

    Survival of those who saw 1914 who were >= 9 is 265,000

    Survival of those who were alive in 1915 (including any born that year) is 10.7 million.

    Drastic rate of decline in numbers after age 90. And the stand that the completely undefined "traits characterizing the generation" would not die out before the end is an insult to the intelligence.

    AuldSoul

  • buffalosrfree
    buffalosrfree

    Just more of their infernal beliefs that is being/has been proved wrong, the great crowd from 1935 is next then the rest of their b.s. will still make sense to the R&F who have blinders on and can't think for themselves.

  • Soledad
    Soledad

    Until 1994

    *** km 10/93 p. 8 Using Our Magazines From House to House ***

    The purpose of Awake! is stated clearly on page 4 of each issue: "This magazine builds confidence in the Creator’s promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away.
    make sure this remains archived.

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    October 15, 1995 Watchtower made this generation thing obsolete.

  • run dont walk
    run dont walk

    Until 1994

    *** km 10/93 p. 8 Using Our Magazines From House to House ***

    The purpose of Awake! is stated clearly on page 4 of each issue: "This magazine builds confidence in the Creator’s promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away.

    Could u post the whole article, PLEASE and Thanks ..........

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