Profits profits profits

by wanderlustguy 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • wanderlustguy
    wanderlustguy

    In business profit isn't a dollar amount at least not the way most people view it. Profitability is based on percentage of revenue and not how much money is in the bank. Yes, one has a lot to do with another however it is all percentages.

    Of course I'm talking about oil comanies, because they are being questioned about their profits. It could as easily happen to any of us that have our own business or even direct one for someone else. Just because you show a dollar amount of profit does not mean you made money, because on financial reports, the profit is shown, but then shortly therafter that "pool" of money is tapped into for capital to grow the business. As a manager or Director of a company, you are tasked with taking that "profit", and reinvesting it into the company, and then recovering that amount plus some for the next quarter. So yes, if all goes well, the business continues to grow and make money. But if all goes badly, who will step up and pay the difference? In the case of oil, if they lost money, would anyone step up to say "hey, let me pay some of that for you?" Hell no, but if the dollar amount the companies make is to high, people look at them differently, even though thier percentage of profit to revenue may have dropped. I haven't read their financials, but it's definitely possible since they are spending money to develop more resources and replace damaged facilities. In my case, I run a 20% margin of profitability, if we do 10,000 or 1,000,000, that cannot change or I'm not doing my job.

    Should they have cut their profit percentage? It's a dangerous game, one of those things you can't go back and undo, once you accept less, then you are always on the hook and can never get back to the profitability your investors demand of you...and you're unemployed.

    It's a tough call, I'm glad I don't work for those guys.

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    Well, I would suggest that the oil companies that are diversifed into all areas of production have increased their percentage of margin considerably. Oil companies that operate downstream operations only (retail), will make their same margin and not much else. But oil companies that explore (upstream) and refine (midstream) are making out like bandits. The selling price of crude has exploded lately, while their costs are pretty much the same, so their margins on the production of crude are unbelievably high.


    By the same token, when oil prices were low, and that was only a couple years ago, their margins were tight and so exploration was limited to only the likeliest oil fields and high quality oil. Now, even heavy oil and tarsands are viable.

  • jula71
    jula71

    And a little more on oil profits. One very important concept the media does not mention is the bulk of where the profits came from. It came from what's called "inventory profit." Oil companies keep a massive amount of crude oil in stock for future manufacturing. Over the past few months oil price per barrel spiked, a couple times. This affected the worth of the inventories making them of more value which translates into........profit on the books.

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    I think many so-called "apostates" are more sullied by WT propaganda than they realize...understandably in some instances...

    They still believe "the system" is evil and there is a conspiracy behind EVERYTHING...and that "producers" are inherently evil and "sponges" are good.

    They've just substituted "corporate America" and "windfall profits" for Satan and the demons and "this old system".

    But I've never seen a Dub bitch about their 300%+ profit margins that come from being a janitor ( I made six figures as one)...

    So much for "unrighteous riches"....hehehe

    I've found almost EVERY Dub accusation against "this old system" and the people in it WRONG! I've found the Dubs, on the whole...far worse...even their motives are "evil"...I've found...IMO.

    u/d

  • lonelysheep
    lonelysheep

    Big oil is the new pharma industry.....overpaid.

  • upside/down
    upside/down
    Big oil is the new pharma industry.....overpaid.



    Just like IT & High Tech...?

    My close friend was just "layed off" by HP...after 29 years of salary at or above 90K per year...plus full beni's. (My current business partner was her boss and says that she's been over-paid for most of her career...like MANY in her field. But they feel entitled to over-pay...some people you just can't reach.)

    Her job is going to India... as any junior high kid is capable of doing it now.

    BUT YOU KNOW...IT"S ALL BUSH'S FAULT.

    Isn't economics beautiful?

    The Dubs aren't the only ones being "duped" out there...

    u/d

  • jstalin
    jstalin

    Profit is the fuel of innovation. Without profits, companies wouldn't have anything to invest in R&D, exploration, etc. The more profits, the more innovation. Those profits are eventually spent, which creates jobs. I don't understand the wingnut socialists who hate profits. They don't understand economics 101.

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    Actually, profits are great. Do you know who gets most of them? Us. By far the largest investors in the stock market (and therefore the recipients of dividends and capital gains) are pension funds.

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