Jehovahs witnesses and illuminati????

by theinfamousone 31 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • theinfamousone

    ok, so ive been reading this book called schildren of the matrix, which to be honest with you is alot of crock... except a few very thought provoking questions...

    I have heard it said that the "founder" of Jehovah's Witnesses Pastor C.T. Russell was a member of the illuminati... this author says that originally the bible students were called the "mind-control sect" by charles Taze Russell himself... and that he was a member of the Illuminati and this was a new way to control more minds and more of the world by the aforementioned group...

    what do you think???

    the infamous one

  • FlyingHighNow

    I'll have to look into it more. Sounds fascinating. You should find an article on line about it and post a link for us.

  • misspeaches

    This is all new for me... What else you got oh infamous one....

  • theinfamousone

    i will find the quotes for you guys, but whilest youre looking, look at and read the religion section... ive heard it said before... but this guy is kinda wacko, thinks were controlled by reptiles or something, but get past that, its an interesting theory....

    the infamous one

  • jula71

    I know Russell was a Mason which is a group with suspected ties to the illuminati, if they exist.

  • theinfamousone

    the best part is, its almost impossible to find anything about russell anywhere cept in JW publications and some crack pot websites... i have found many saying that he is not the founder of the J-Dubs... but who knows???

    the infamous one

  • bikerchic

    Hum, where's Skally when you need her? She the resident expert on the illuminati, I'm sure she'll pop in in a few hours and give you all kinds of links and information. If not try PMing her she knows this subject like the back of her hand.

  • peacefulpete

    This has been hashed out in painful detail here before. The short of it is NO Russel was not a Mason. Conspiracy theorists lifted a quote from a speech of Russel's out of context and wrongly assumed the use of Egyptian symbols equated the Russelllites with Masons. Someone here will surely provide a link to earlier discussions. I don't have time now.

  • M*A*S*H

    David Icke is a complete nut job! He's completely bonkers... He once was a famous english football player. One day he decided that he was the son of God! He actually went on 'Terry Wogan' (at the time the most popular English Chat show) and said as much, the audience was not impressed at all. After a while out of the spotlight, he decided that he wasn't the son of God, no, he now believes that the world is dominated by a bunch of repitilians that have taken human form. Hmmm... yes David... that's much more sensible!

    If there's a conspiracy or crazy fad theory out there - he's backing it... He ranks right up there with Uri Gellar in my book.

  • Hellrider
    but this guy is kinda wacko, thinks were controlled by reptiles or something

    Well...WE ARE!

    Ha ha, no seriously, if a guy thinks we`re controlled by reptiles, why would you ever want to take ANYTHING of what he writes seriously?

  • RevFrank

    The illuminati also followed the Apostolic faith in which were arians.

  • 3rdEye

    I think Icke said that those who are considered the "Illuminati" are controlled by reptiles, not everyone. I found his theories about Lady Di, which are in his book The Biggest Secret, to be interesting.

  • LittleToe

    David Icke is a quack

    Russell was also pretty wacko, as were most (if not all) of those that followed him in leading the religion that he ostensibly started.

    That he dabbled in the occult is highly likely, but to go beyond this and claim he had certain clear affiliations with any particular group (e.g. Freemasons, Illuminati, etc.) is a step too far, IMHO, as there is simply no evidence for it..

    I suspect he spurned the idea of joining himself to any particular group, be it religion, Lodge, or coven.

  • Sam the Man
    Sam the Man

    Children of the MAtrix by David Icke. Dude if you want more info on Icke, I have lots of audio files/ videos/ pdf's of his if you like.

  • Golf

    Infamous, may I suggest you type in "Myron C Fagan & the Illuminati" in your search engine.

    Mr.Fagan was a knowledgable person on this subject.


  • watch the tower
    watch the tower

    Here's an interesting excerpt from an interview:

    Fritz Springmeier:

    Everybody has probably heard of Jehovah’s Witnesses and how they would go out and knock on people’s doors. I was the opposite. I was a Christian missionary to bring Jehovah’s Witnesses to Christ and I was getting tired of working with these little Jehovah’s Witnesses on the street, and I was praying to God to be given the power to decapitate the authoritarian organization that is over these Jehovah’s Witnesses. At that point, I got my prayer answered. I got this confidential information that the heads of the Watchtower Society were collaborating with the heads of the Latter Day Saints church. That information totally changed my life. I had bumped into the Illuminati and their mind control, and I am not to single out the Watchtower Society and the Mormon church because I found out that their infiltration and control is pretty well right across the whole spectrum. Your Christian organizations in general have been infiltrated and controlled from behind the scenes.

    Here is the link to the whole interview:

  • LittleToe

    I'm surprised at you. Have you been researching and reading about occult practices and bloodlines? Tut, tut, tut!

  • Ianone

    infamousone check out the scandals section. About 4 threads covering this subject.

  • sf

    Surely there are more than four other threads on this topic.

    Ianone, there are many, many threads throughout the years on this very topic. You are actually a late-comer on this topic. As I'm sure many more will come after you, when they too, STUMBLE upon all that is out there on the subject.


  • Ianone

    Once we can get past the smear jobs of calling anyone anti'semitic who associates anything Israeli with the Illuminatti or New World Order, we will be able to see how far the rabbit hole goes.

    Yes the Zionists created the Jehovah's Witness, Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Presbyterians, Southern Baptists, and all modern Evangelical groups, but how did they do this?

    One main name comes to mind: Cyrus I. Scofield

    Type in this name in google with "Zionist" and see what comes up.

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