Public Image (AAWA Thread, but not a bashing thread)

by okage 27 Replies latest members private

  • okage
    okage

    I've noted several times over the last couple weeks that the AAWA needs a good PR rep. This was seconded by Simon, though he added that it was weird they were more focused on PR damage control than actual damage control.

    And after weeks of screaming at them, they buckled down, changed their name and made a public apology on their site. Transparency, I suppose.

    They should fire whoever is doing their PR.

    I understand transparency is important, but I feel the apology should have been posted in the members only section of JWN and/or to those who publicly complained they were outed. Many may disagree, but I feel I have sound reasoning.

    Ask yourself this: Does the newly doubting Witness Paul E. Publisher, who has never heard of JWN or the AAWA, benefit at all from reading about the security breach or the pissing match between the two sites?

    You have your own answer. Personally, I feel he doesn't. I feel that if he stumbles on the AAWA site and sees their history as well as that detailed account that amounts to an apology, he will be hesitant to trust the group.

    Don't get me wrong, kudos to them for changing their name to a more positive name and more power to them for apologizing. I feel that our JWN family working with the AAWA will have their skills put in the shadow of that apology on their main site. The potential 7 million Witnesses who can be saved don't need that apology or the admission that there was a security breach. JWN did. The thousand names added to facebook did.

    It can be time consuming to send out an email to 1,000 people on facebook, but it shows a sign of sincerity to commit to that time. Even if it's the same exact email to all 1,000 people.
    It becomes the apology and admission they needed to make to all the people involved, but without the chance of backlash from the unknowing public.

    I know the Big Wigs at AAWA probably won't read or respond to this, but if they do:

    Make the rounds with the people you already affected.
    Take down the part of the Eventful Journey that says you dropped the ball.
    Take down the public apology because it's only going to scare away the ones who've never heard of you prior to today.
    And if you have a PR group, fire them for letting you keep those things public for as long as they have.

    If anyone on JWN agrees, please, make your voice be known.

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    I think AAWA is DONE with JWN. They removed all reference to one of their board members being a mod here in the board member bios. It's probably for the best anyway. They lost their VP and changed their name after swearing several times they weren't going to change it. I don't think they are in any mood to take any more advice from people here, especially after cedars' exchange with Simon yesterday via email.

  • okage
    okage

    What happened with who now?!

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    Deleted - See below

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    Wait, I was looking at the old website. Here's what it says on aawa.co/about-aawa:

    Lee MarshLee Marsh is a long-standing member of the Ex-JW community, and has done considerable work in the field of help and support for those struggling with emotional difficulties through their association with Watchtower.

    Here's what it says on jwactivists.org/about-aawa:

    Lee Marsh – Lee Marsh is a long-standing member of the Ex-JW community, and has done considerable work in the field of help and support for those struggling with emotional difficulties through their association with Watchtower. Lee also moderates on jehovahs-witness.net – a large online community of former Witnesses who come together to share their experiences and discuss new developments.

    Why is the old website still up? It linked you to the new website yesterday.

  • Simon
    Simon

    I disagree, they just can't repeatedly run away from issues which is effectively what they've done and trying to pretend things haven't happend is never going to work and will make you look worse when revealed.

    My opinion is the apology was forced out of them because they had no alternative. The name change was forced upon them because in the few short weeks they had already trashed it. Neither of these things were done because they were 'listening', they did everything they could not to.

    I've seen nothing to lead me to believe that they have changed their attitudes in any way whatsoever and plenty to hint that they are more determined not to listen and to stockpile information to use to retaliate against anyone who disagrees with them.

    They should not be firing the several (!) PR companies that they consulted with because they never should have been in a situation where they needed to piss away donations on that anyway. Apart from basic competence to avoid the issues in the first place, the answers when they did happen were obvious, people gave them for free ... they just didn't want to listen.

    I have grave concerns about their abilities as an organization based on what I've seen so far (both operational and technical) but the inability to communicate and to take crticism and conduct conversations in an adult manner is a catastrophe in the making. No one will want to tip-toe round someone who blows up at the slightest issue, when they don't get their way or when someone tells them news they don't like. The organisational structure is all wrong - Cedars is great at what he does best but it's blindingly obvious that being president of the AAWA is not one of those things and someone else more patient and rational needs to be in charge if they are to succeed.

  • Simon
    Simon

    Thank Las Mavinas ... now we know why it took them 3 weeks to finally act and close the facebook group.

    They were busy editing their pages ... really high priority stuff all things considered.

    Priorities are just all wrong ... it's all about them or specifically, President Cedars.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    Simon, how many mods here are "volunteers" at AAWA?

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

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  • Simon
    Simon

    I was going for the "and that makes me King, KING SEE !!" bit :)

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