News program suggestint that Jesus was married

by Netty 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • Netty
    Netty

    a little disclaimer first, let me admit right up front I think this is a little on the weird side. I was watching a news program, maybe 48 hours or one of those like it, sometime last week. And it talked about how there is a whole group of supposed experts who say that Jesus Christ was married. They say he was married to Mary Magdeline. They even showed how one art expert who believes that Davinci? is my first guess but maybe Michealangleo, well whichever one did the painting of the last supper. The artist supposedly included Mary Magdeline in that painting. When you are looking at the pix she is on the left, so she actually would have been sitting to Jesus right. The report also said that there is supposed to be offspring. There is this litle secret society that has some sort of writings that prove this and have been kept secret throught the years, even through the inquisition. Again, I think it is a pretty far fetched thing, but that is what presented in this report.w.

  • shotgun
    shotgun

    Netty...it's all in the #1 best seller The DaVinci Code...I'm not sure how much is fictional.

  • in a new york bethel minute
    in a new york bethel minute
    it's all in the #1 best seller The DaVinci Code...I'm not sure how much is fictional.

    oh great i just started reading that book, AND NOW I KNOW THE ENDING!!! thanks a lot shotgun

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Before the da Vinci code was the book written by Michael Baigent entitiled "Holy Blood, Holy Grail". It is a fascinating book. You may want to check it out.

    Robyn

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    The Da Vinci painting of the Last Supper obviously depicts a woman................you will never look at the painting the same again. It IS a woman. No doubt.

    Don't worry about the book being spoiled. You will still be surprised at the end. Great read.

  • Robdar
    Robdar
    Dont believe everything you "hear" or "read". The truth is within the bible and only the bible.....The prophet messiah was never married, and that is the bottom line...

    I don't think that the Bible addresses this subject. Not to be a smarty pants but either show me where it says that he specifically wasn't married or please admit to speculation. Robyn

  • Triple A
    Triple A

    Suggested side reading, "Cracking THE DAVINCI CODE," by Garlow and Jones.

    Two of Christianity's top research authors, Dr. James Garlow, who holds degrees from Asbury and Princeton Seminaries; and Dr. Peter Jones, who holds degrees from Gordon-Conwell Seminary, Harvard Divinity School and Princeton, have collaborated to provide the practical insight to answer questions about the modern heresy.

  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    I READ A BOOK WRITTEN BY A MAN WHO HAD STUMBLED ON SOME DOCUMENTS SUGGESTING THIS VERY THING.

    HE WENT TO THE AREA BEING FOUGHT OVER BY INDIA AND PAKISTAN, SHANGRI LA I BELIEVE IT WAS. HE INVESTIGATED AND GOT SOME HELP FROM THE LOCAL CHURCH LEADERS AND OTHERS. THAT SAY THAT JESUS DIED AND IS BURIED HERE.

    THERE IS A TOMB THERE DATING FROM THE TIME OF CHRIST. THE CURRENT INHABITANTS OF THE AREA SWEAR THAT JESUS IS BURIED IN THIS TOMB AND THEY KNEW HIM BY THE NAME "ISSA"??

    THEY POINT TO ANOTHER GRAVE SITE AND SAY THAT MARY MAGDALENE IS BURIED THERE AND TO ANOTHER AND SAY THAT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS IS BURIED THERE.

    THEY SAY HE FLED ISRAEL AND LIVED TO AN OLD AGE IN THIS AREA.

    I CAN NOT RECALL THE TITLE OF THE BOOK. IT WAS VERY POPULAR ABOUT 6 OR 7 YEARS AGO.

    WHO KNOWS?

    OH I FORGOT, THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY BELIEVEABLE BOOK.

    Outoftheorg

  • Robdar
    Robdar
    Well if the bible does not say it, then its not true. Just like Dinosaurs or how the world was flat, none of that is mention in the bible, so its not true. As i mention before, everything we need to know and understand is in the bible, so if GOD never mention that Jesus was married, then the man aint married....Unlike some people in this world, who try to add things to the bible, but are wrong..

    Oh, really? Well, the Bible doesn't mention what Jesus was doing between the ages of 13 and 30. So, I guess you are saying that Jesus didn't exist between those ages? Sorry, you are going to have to offer more proof other than that of omission. Or, admit to speculation. Robyn

  • simplesally
    simplesally

    Outoftheorg.............there is a supposed tomb for Jesus in Japan. Apparently he fled Israel and got married and had children, lived his peaceful life in Japan.........

    It?s a story of Jesus Christ, and it goes a little something like this: Jesus didn?t die up on his cross at Golgotha. That was his brother. Christ himself fled across Siberia and, after a brief detour through Alaska, landed in Japan ? where he got married and raised a family.

    The town, Shingo, calls itself Kirisuto no Sato: Hometown of Christ.

    Not many burgs outside of Bethlehem make that claim.

    Today, Shingo is known more for its garlic farms (they even make garlic ice cream there) and apple orchards than the Tomb of Christ ? that is, if it were to be known for anything at all (it?s not).

    The site itself, a few minutes? drive from the town?s tiny commercial district, is rather unspectacular. Two 8-foot-high wooden crosses surrounded by a white picket fence sit on a bluff in the woods overlooking a gravel parking lot. A small museum sits at the other side of the parking lot.

    On a typical day, dozens of people wander through. Some leave a small offering ? five-yen coins, considered lucky, are common ? in a basket at the gravesite. Some even pray.

    The idea of Jesus visiting, much less settling down in, Japan?s equivalent of the Ozarks may sound patently absurd. Even many locals doubt the tale. But some residents of Shingo say it?s entirely plausible that the man many call Messiah came here, and claim they can prove it.

    An Ancient Scroll and a Remarkable Tale

    In the years leading up to World War II, ancient scrolls turned up in the hands of a Shinto priest just outside of Tokyo. They pertained to two small, forgotten graves in the remote mountains of northern Honshu, the main island of Japan

    The scrolls ? written in a Japanese so archaic that only experts can read it ? recount the unlikely tale of Christ?s escape from death, and were purportedly written ? or at least dictated ? by Jesus himself as his last will and testament. Call it the Last Testament.

    When the priest realized what he had uncovered, he summoned Banzan Toya, an artist/researcher specializing in ancient Japanese history. Together, they located two graves in a bamboo grove on the ancestral land of the Sawaguchi family, whose tradition held that the burial site remain undisturbed, but did not explain why.

    According to the scrolls, one tomb holds the ears of Jesus? brother, Isukiri, and a lock of the Blessed Virgin Mary?s hair, while Christ himself rests in the one directly opposite.

    The scrolls talk of Christ?s ?lost? years, during which, they say, he traveled to Japan for spiritual training. Years later, when he was condemned to die in Judea, he escaped to his adopted hometown.

    In Shingo, locals held him in awe as the ?long-nosed goblin.? Christ supposedly changed his name to Daitenku Taro Jurai, sired a biblical three daughters and lived to the ripe old age of 106.

    A Dubious Character and His Hunt for Pyramids

    The original scrolls were lost in the war, but a copy survives, and is on display ? in a glass case ? at a museum on the Tomb of Christ grounds.

    There are some obvious problems with this tale. First, if true it would undermine the entire basis for the Christian faith: for the religion to be valid, Jesus had to die on the cross. It also contradicts the Bible, which details his crucifixion.

    The scroll was discovered in the intensely nationalistic climate of the prewar years; similar ?discoveries? document Moses? trip to Japan, where the divine emperor gave him the Ten Commandments and the Hebrew language, not to mention the Star of David.

    Toya himself was a bit of a dubious character; he traveled Japan in search of seven ancient pyramids, far older than those of Egypt. The day after he uncovered the Tomb of Christ, Toya ?found? one of the pyramids nearby ? a strange collection of rocks atop a small hill and a large, flat slab he claimed was a fallen monolith.

    A surreal road sign near the tomb of Christ today features notations in English and Japanese denoting the locations of ?Tomb of Christ? and ?pyramid.? This just before the chapel-shaped Tomb of Christ bus stop, where nearby ads would lead a passing tourist to believe the site was in some way sponsored or recognized by Coca-Cola.

    But the tale cannot be dismissed offhand. It is very likely the someone ? or something ? is buried in the tomb below. Locals say archaeologists have confirmed that a very old crypt does, in fact, exist beneath the gravesite, and the town claims some interesting customs that predate the modern ?rediscovery? of the tomb.

    Until recently, for example, newborn children in Shingo were decorated with a black cross on the forehead.

    Locals Make a Living Off the Jesus Legend

    Even if they don?t quite believe the story, the people of Shingo know a good thing when they see it.

    ?It?s just a way of attracting tourists, making money,? said Father Marcel Poliquin, a Roman Catholic priest in Towada, about 45 miles from Shingo.

    At local gift shops, believers and nonbelievers alike can buy Jesus coasters, Jesus thermometers, Jesus telephone cards and more.

    One shop even sells ?Kirisuto no Sato? sake.

    Visitors to the tomb also inevitably pony up a few hundred yen to visit the museum, and the town?s big annual draw is a festival at the gravesite. There, local dancers march around the graves banging drums and singing in a language no one understands ? but some say is derivative of ancient Hebrew.

    ?Maybe it?s true, maybe it?s not,? says one friendly local in a neighborhood bar. ?It?s a legend.?

    A schoolgirl who lives in a nearby town says she?s never been to the gravesite.

    ?But it?s probably a lie,? she adds.

    Father Marcel tries to see the humor in the heresy.

    ?I say it as a joke: ?Christ died in my parish.??

    So who, if anyone, is buried in the Tomb of Christ?

    Some speculate that it was an early leader of Japan?s indigenous Ainu population. Some say an ancient wise man. Others believe that an early Christian missionary rests below.

    Or, perhaps, nothing at all.

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