How many is there? Can we have a brain storm and get a list going?
Paul
How many things can a JW get disfellowshipped for?
by digderidoo 22 Replies latest jw friends
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AudeSapere
If you plan carefully, you can probably get DF'd for 100 or more all at once...!!
-Aude.
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leavingwt
In all seriousness, though, Paul Grundy has done a fine job with the actual list. Go to the page below and scroll down.
Watchtower Reasons for Disfellowshipping
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sacolton
If you should ever look at an elder the wrong way ...
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besty
If you should ever look at an elder the wrong way ...
that would be 'loose conduct'
Loose conduct - ks91-E pp.93, 96, w83 3/15 p.31, w73 9/15 p.574, it-2 p.264, ks91-E p.93, w83 3/15 p.31, w73 9/15 pp.574-6, w97 9/1 p.14, it-2 p.246.
This includes;- Sexual perversion
- Disregard for Jehovah's moral standards
- Disrespect, disregard or even contempt for standards, laws and authority,
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OnTheWayOut
From leavingwt: http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/disfellowship.htm
That's quite a list. I will post it for those that cannot link:
Kingdom Ministry (km) Watchtower (w) Jehovah’s Witnesses - Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom (1993) (jv) Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock (ks91-E) Organised to Accomplish Our Ministry (om) Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 1 or 2 (it-1 or 2)
- Adultery (sexual intercourse with a person other than your marriage mate), includes;
- abandoning wife and eloping with another woman - w79 11/15 31-2, w76 p.728
- planned adultery to break Scriptural marriage ties - w83 3/15 p.29
- remarriage without Scriptural permission - w56 10/1 p.597
- polygamy - jv 176
- dating a person not legally divorced - ks91-E p.135
- Apostasy - w83 4/1 pp.22-4, km 8/80 pp.1, 4. includes;
- rebellion against Jehovah’s organization - w63 7/1
- promoting sects - it-2 886
- Associating with disfellowshipped people including;
- friends - ks91-E p.103, w81 9/15 pp.25-6, w55 10/1 p.607
- family - ks91-E p.103
- Blood and blood transfusions - w61 1/15 ks91-E p.95, jv p.183-4
- Drug use - ks91-E p.96
- Drunkenness - ks91-E p.95, it-1 656
- Dishonest business practices - w63 7/1, w86 11/15 14
- Employment violating Christian principles - km 9/76 p.6, km 2/74
- working for any religious organization - ks91-E p.95
- working in a gambling institution - ks91-E p.136
- selling tobacco - ks91-E p.96
- contract work at a military establishment
- False worship. Includes;
- attending another church ks91-E p.94
- following mourning customs that involve false worship - w85 4/15 p.25
- Fornication it-1 863
- bestiality - w83 6/1 p.25
- incestuous marriage - w78 3/15 p.26
- artificial insemination – g74 8/8 p.28
- sexual abuse of children - g93 10/8 p.10Reviling - ks91-E p.94, w96 7/15 pp.17-18; it-1 p.991; it-2 p.802
- Fraud - ks91-E p.94, om pp.142-3
- Gambling or related employment - w80 9/1, ks91-E p.136
- Gluttony - w86 5/1
- Greediness, this in used to include;
- gambling ks91-E p.95
- extortion ks91-E p.95, w89 1/15 22, it-1 p.789
- greed in relation to bride-price: w98 9/15 p.25
- Homosexuality - w83 6/1 pp.24-6
- Idolatry - w52 3/1 p.138
- Loose conduct - ks91-E pp.93, 96, w83 3/15 p.31, w73 9/15 p.574, it-2 p.264, ks91-E p.93, w83 3/15 p.31, w73 9/15 pp.574-6, w97 9/1 p.14, it-2 p.246.
This includes;- Sexual perversion
- Disregard for Jehovah's moral standards
- Disrespect, disregard or even contempt for standards, laws and authority,
- Lying - ks91-E p.94, g00 2/8 p.21
- Non neutral activities (involvement in politics and the military) - ks91-E p.96
- Military service and non military service including working casual work (certain civilian work has recently been made a conscience matter w96 5/1 p.20) - ks91-E p.96
- Obscene speech - ks91-E p.95
- Parents condoning immorality - w56 p.566
- Political involvement, including voting or holding a political card in Malawi - ks91-E p.96 John 6:15 Therefore Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone. (w99 11/1p.28 made this a conscience matter)
- Porneia. “It includes oral and anal sex or mutual masturbation between persons not married to each other, homosexuality, lesbianism, fornication, adultery, incest, and bestiality.” - ks91-E p.93
- Slander - ks91-E p.94, w63 7/1, w89 10/15 p.14, om p.142
- Smoking or selling tobacco - km 2/74, ks91-E p.96
- Spiritism (includes yoga w02 8/1 p.22) - w55 10/1 p.607
- Stealing, thievery - om pp.142-5, ks91-E p.94
- Subversive activity - w95 10/1 p.31
- Uncleanness
- sexually ‘perverse’ practices within marriage, such as oral and anal sex - w83 3/15 p.31
- heavy petting and breast fondling - ks91-E p.92
- touching of sexual parts - ks91-E p.91
- Violation of secular law if flagrant attitude - w86 10/1 p.31
- Violence, extreme physical abuse, fits of anger - ks91-E p.96, w75 p.287, g01 11/8 p.12
- Includes Boxing w81 7/1 pp.30-1, ks91-E p.142
- Wilful non support of family, endangerment of mate’s spirituality - w88 11/1 pp.22-3, km 9/73 p.8, ks91-E p.95
- Worldly celebrations such as Christmas - ks91-E p.95 (It appears celebrating birthdays is not a reason to be disfellowshipped)
The problem with WTS is that the list cannot contain all the little things that can be put into
each category.For instance, apostacy includes, rebellion against Jehovah’s organization and promoting sects.
Any act of not agreeing with WTS fits into that rebellion, which we know is silly. No rebellion is
taking place with most that disagree.The list does mention how loose conduct allows them to DF for any offense that doesn't fit into
another category. So the list is complete, but WTS's own elders don't fully understand it. They
just know that full obedience is necessary to avoid a judicial committee. - Adultery (sexual intercourse with a person other than your marriage mate), includes;
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still-fading
Nice list! I think I hit at lease 15 of those!
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calico
Wouldn't it be funny if when they made the announcement they said the number of things you did?!
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Awakened at Gilead
Well you beat me, I only counted 14 reasons for me....
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still-fading
It was the uncleanness that pushed me over the edge!!