When someone has been through a hard time even though they appear to be improving improving a lot there are sometimes setbacks, certain things can trigger them off. Does this show how far they have still to go? That they're not doing as well as they thought they were?
Trigger points.
by Gadget 20 Replies latest members private
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shotgun
Gadget do you mean like when I scratch your belly and your leg starts kicking wildly?
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Markfromcali
I would not necessarily consider these things a setback or that you have 'farther' to go, but simply one point that has to be looked at. In fact, you could look at it as the thing(s) that are left over, or simply having to go deeper into it if it has been addressed before but perhaps not as thoroughly as needed.
Incidentally, in massage a trigger point is a little knot and the way you work on it is simply applying direct pressure, often times it lets go after staying on it a while.
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Odrade
If you want to take the trigger point idea to a physiological comparison:
Sometimes you will have a trigger point in a muscle. The muscle will be so tight and bound up around the trigger point that when your therapist finds it and presses on it, you won't feel a thing. The trigger point is numb. However, once the muscle has been worked a little, when the therapist presses the trigger point, the client will feel pain of varying severity. The therapist knows this is a good sign, you are getting better. But for the client, sometimes it feels like the treatment made everything worse. Just keep doing what you're doing. Your triggers will be more reactive at first, but gradually they will get better.
Hope you're feeling better soon Gadget.
Odrade
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moonwillow
(((Gadget)))
I don't think so. Everyone has trigger points and sometimes they are easily set off and sometimes hard as heck to set off. Hang in there and don't give up.
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reboot
certain things can trigger them off. Does this show how far they have still to go? That they're not doing as well as they thought they were?
((((((((Gadget)))))))))))I see my depression/abuse recovery as a journey. Sometimes I fall over and have a hard time getting back on my feet again; other times I feel i'm really getting somewhere, and then I tread in a dog turd and lose my map.
This week is, for example , a bad week; but that dos'nt mean my whole life is bad.I have to remind myself to challenge and recognise negative thoughts as they occur and in time, this reduces their frequency and breaks the downward spiral of mood.
Negative thoughts reinforce and deepen black moods. Keeping a record activity is helpful too;
what you do is rate your sense of acomplishment or pleasure after each activity,write it down... then later you can use this to decide which activities to increase because they give you feelings of mastery and pleasure...or even which ones to avoid as they depress you further.
Seeing your therapist is a good idea too......(*cough, cough*)
Distraction can also help you to not dwell on the thoughts that won't go away...what do you really like doing that would keep your mind distracted...?
Talking to someone who loves me never fails to lift me out of the pit.....
Oh, and if all else fails I go for a long walk on the beach or punch something............right......now text me and cheer me up...I need a hug - my clothes are muddy, I burnt the dinner, my children are out and i've got no wine.....
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Sassy
We can come a far ways and heal but I think we are always volnerable to things that could trigger feelings, setbacks. It helps if we have a support system in place so when things hit us, there is some help.
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Dolllie
No, it just points to a "weakness" they have to work on.
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gespro
No, it just points to a "weakness" they have to work on.
At first glance this sounds like a typical JW remark. I'm triggered by this statement. But, I'm thinking this statement through and because of therapy/recovery I am learning to deal with situations differently.[In recovery, we learn the 'I' instead of 'you' or 'we', by the way.] I analyse why [for example] this statement
No, it just points to a "weakness" they have to work on.*
grates on my nerves. I'm thinking it's something my judgemental, controlling JW mother would spew out in her black and white reasoning. Someone [a newbie] walked in here with a pale of mud and threw a 'thought cancellation' statement. Shut down the works! Blunt is another word that comes to mind. [Wrong is another IMO.] I'm triggered; but because I am considering this statement*, I feel not weak, but encouraged that I won't take it to heart and I have identified why it triggers me. So, I no longer take personally the blunt remark that was said, but I'm not bothered by what that person said any longer. So I'm re-learning a behaviour to rid myself of this kind of trigger. It is a process - and not a weakness. gespro of the 'I've been in therapy too long' class
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LyinEyes
Odrade said it so well, great comparison with the physical muscle trigger points and emotional ones.
I have fibromyalgia, so I have literal trigger points and Odrade said it so well,,,,,,,once you find the spot that is causing the trouble and you work it out,,,,,,,,,it hurts alot. But the good thing is the relief you feel.
I can say that with my trigger points , some of them on my body are in the same exact place everytime I have a flare up,,,,,I work them out for awhile but they come back . I just have to work them out somemore. I suspect that I will always have these trigger points , in the same place for the rest of my life. I have had it for years and I just know that the immediate pain will go away and then the sad part is that it will come back. But I am able to deal with the pain knowing that it is not always going to hurt so bad, that I will have my good days again.
Same thing for my emotional trigger points. I am sure the ones I have will always be there.......the only difference is that with time and dealing with them,,,,,,even thou they don't change, I am able to handle them better each time I have to deal with them. I learn new coping techniques and make it better for myself and I am prepared for the next time they flare as well.