Does "Loyalty" work both ways in the Org?

by JH 20 Replies latest jw friends

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  JH

  As JW's we are asked to be "loyal" to the organization. All this means is, say "yes" to everything they ask, and believe everything they teach without questioning.

  How about the JW organization, Are they loyal to their members? If a brother of sister falls sick, loses a job, becomes invalid, will the JW organization show loyalty to that person and help out?

  I don't think that we owe any "loyalty" to an organization who doesn't show any loyalty to it's members.

  You can be a pioneer for decades, be generous with your time and money, but the day you stop giving, they don't recall all the good you did.

  Shouldn't loyalty work both ways?
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  Scully

  As far as I could tell - from personal experience - loyalty only goes one way: from JW to WTS. Once you can no longer march to their goose-step, they have no use for you and will throw you away like yesterday's trash.
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  Big Dog

  From what I can see it is a one way street. That was one thing that always bugged me about the borg, they had nothing for their members, no outreach programs, no organized hospice teams, nothing for the children. It was just give, give, give to the borg and when you were used up, tough crap.

  And can someone tell me how to get paragraph breaks, I hit return and when I am typing it appears I have a space, but then when I post it all runs together in one big glob.
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  Scully

  That being said, this is a common phenomenon in heirarchical structures - corporations, big business, bureaucracies. The "entity" becomes the focus of loyalty, the members themselves are nothing more than tiny cogs that are dispensible and easily replaced when they no longer "fit".

  In peer-to-peer relationships, loyalty is usually more equitably shared.
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  gumby

  If a brother of sister falls sick, loses a job, becomes invalid, will the JW organization show loyalty to that person and help out?

  Hi JH. I think it depends on the circumstances such as ....the congregation, the person who's sick, and the reason they "stop" giving.

  There is a sister in my wifes hall who rarely makes any meetings because of old age and health.....yet various sisters still take her meals and check up on her. One thing that makes a difference is that she is of the annointed and many are motivated perhaps for that reason. If a person with a longtime faithfulness becomes nothing more than a seatwarmer in the hall with little activity other than attending an occational meeting with no good reason,......they can become forgotten about my many.

  I think this situation is true with various groups. When I was a fireball in a multi-level marketing buisness....I recieved much attention.....but as soon as I petered out, I became a nobody real fast.

  Gumby
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  JH

  Before baptism, we have to answer many questions in order to satisfy them. Maybe we should also be asking them questions before baptism, to see if they understood their side of the contract.
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  minimus

  There's no decency. Forget about loyalty.
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  Mary

  How about the JW organization, Are they loyal to their members? If a brother of sister falls sick, loses a job, becomes invalid, will the JW organization show loyalty to that person and help out?

  Surely you jest. That would cut into either their Service time, or their book publishing time.........loyalty happens only one way in this Organization: to them.
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  jeanniebeanz

  They will circle the wagons on you if they even suspect that you do not agree with even a very insignificant point of scripture.

  J
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  jschwehm

  Absolutely not!!!

  The org is loyal ONLY to the org. They use people up and when they are done with you, they spit you out. Spend any time at Bethel and that is what you will see.

  Jeff S.