The "Final solution" Watchtower style.

by Norm 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • Norm
    Norm

    The “Final solution” Watchtower style.

    We have been told on this board lately that the Watchtower Society preach the “Good News” and that is one of the good things that set them apart from “Christendom”. People who call the Watchtower Society message Good News has hopefully never really given much thought to what is going to happen if their “Good News” should become reality. Let us investigate what these “Good news” is all about.

    The 22. May, 1999 issue of Awake! Demonstrate how Brooklyn continues to turn out weasel worded magazines about the wonderful “future” that lies ahead. There is no end to what “problems” will be solved when the “kingdom” becomes a reality. These magazines never cease to amaze me. This one is about Child labor, and how it will end “soon”. On page 3 there is an imagined letter from a 7-year-old girl, which describe her situation. On the same page the magazine ask the question if there will come a time when there will be an end to child labor.

    Then follows some general information about the problem of child labor, with lots of references to ILO and reports from UNICEF, which try to help children and their families so the their children don’t have to work. There is even an interview with a representative from ILO. On page 11 the article states that mistreatment of children is nothing new, and mention the Aztecs and Phoenicians as examples of such cultures. Then the article states that there was an ancient society, which was different, namely the nation of Israel!

    One really wonders how shallow and dishonest it is possible to be in Brooklyn. Very conveniently they seem to have completely forgotten Bible texts like this:

    *** Rbi8 Judges 21:10-12 ***
    10 Hence the assembly proceeded to send twelve thousand of the most valiant men there and to command them, saying: “Go, and YOU must strike the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e·ad with the edge of the sword, even the women and the little ones. 11 And this is the thing that YOU should do: Every male and every woman that has experienced lying with a male YOU should devote to destruction.” 12 However, they found out of the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e·ad four hundred girls, virgins, that had not had intercourse with a man by lying with a male. So they brought them to the camp at Shi'loh, which is in the land of Ca'naan.

    *** Rbi8 Numbers 31:7-9 ***
    And they went waging war against Mid'i·an, just as Jehovah had commanded Moses, and they proceeded to kill every male. 8 And they killed the kings of Mid'i·an along with the others slain, namely, E'vi and Re'kem and Zur and Hur and Re'ba, the five kings of Mid'i·an; and they killed Ba'laam the son of Be'or with the sword. 9 But the sons of Israel carried off the women of Mid'i·an and their little ones captive;

    *** Rbi8 Numbers 31:14-18 ***
    And Moses grew indignant at the appointed men of the combat forces, the chiefs of the thousands and the chiefs of the hundreds who were coming in from the military expedition. 15 So Moses said to them: “Have YOU preserved alive every female? 16 Look! They are the ones who, by Ba'laam’s word, served to induce the sons of Israel to commit unfaithfulness toward Jehovah over the affair of Pe'or, so that the scourge came upon the assembly of Jehovah. 17 And now kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has had intercourse with man by lying with a male. 18 And preserve alive for yourselves all the little ones among the women who have not known the act of lying with a male.

    Don’t you all feel the love and compassion shown by the Israelites when they butchered thousands of children and abused thousands of others, as described in the “Word of God”? What a contrast this must have been to the horrible heathen “Aztecs and Phoenicians”.

    Then on page 13 Awake!, talks about the “Real solution” without ever mentioning what it really is. It says that the future holds better times for both children and adults. It says that the future “Kingdom” is going to remove the conditions that cause child labor, and remove all poverty, etc. As usual not one single word about HOW Jehovah's Witnesses believe this is going to happen.

    If the Jehovah's Witness favorite dream come through, the simple reason that all the problems with child labor, poverty, unemployment etc, is of course that all the adults and children facing these problems today will be DEAD! 99,9% those children that this Awake!, show their imaginary, mock interest for, have NO future! Why? Because Jehovah is going to butcher them together with their parents, real soon now, because they didn’t “heed” the insane “message” from Brooklyn about 1914.

    Back in the time before Armageddon would happen in 1975, the boys in Brooklyn really let it rip and with obvious joy and glee wallowed in graphic descriptions of what would happen when their cosmic homicidal maniac, their own personal hit man in heaven, was carrying out his slaughter:

    "*** w61 12/1 725-6 United Against Nations in the Valley of Decision *** "Never before in all human history will so many human creatures have been slaughtered. Blood, as representing human lives poured out, will run deep and over a vast distance. Revelation 14:20 paints the appalling picture, saying: "And the wine press was trodden outside the city [God’s organization], and blood came out of the wine press as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs [or, 200 miles]." To a completion Jehovah’s judicial decision will be executed. The nations and their grapes of wickedness will be trampled out of existence, to leave the earth a cleansed place for the righteous to occupy and enjoy. Not all flesh will be in that symbolic wine press. Not all flesh will have its lifeblood trampled out of it. There are those who make Jehovah their refuge and their fortress. These will be kept safe and be preserved, while Jehovah by his King Jesus Christ crushes their enemies and His enemies in the wine press or "low plain of the decision."... With breathless awe they will have looked down from their safe heights into the valley of decision and witnessed how Jehovah gains his magnificent victory by Christ over all the combined nations of Satan’s visible organization."

    "*** kj 377 20 Land of Magog No More to Threaten Mankind ***
    The unburied dead, "those slain by Jehovah," will be so enormously many that even the carrion birds and scavenging wild beasts could never take care of their consumption. The burial of even what remains after these lower creatures have their fill would be stupendous. Doubtless the Almighty God will use some highly scientific means, whether including antimatter or not, to dispose of the surplus of decaying bodies in a speedy and sanitary way. This remains for the survivors of the "war of the great day" to see and witness. We remember that Noah and his seven fellow survivors of the global Deluge were not burdened with burying the human victims of that world catastrophe after they came out of the ark and renewed Jehovah’s worship on earth.—Genesis 8:18-22."

    "*** sl 276 15 Disaster for Fighters Against God's New Order ***
    Quite evidently there will be many more bodies strewn over the earth as a result of the war at Har–Magedon than there will be scavenger birds enough to dispose of them all in a reasonable time for human health reasons. So it is reasonable to expect that God will dispose of excess bodies by other means."

    "*** w55 7/15 438 War from Heaven Brings Peace to Earth ***
    Men have a saying about "dying with your boots on." At Armageddon Jehovah God will grant their wish and let them "die with their boots on." He will allow them to build up to peak strength and go down fighting."

    "*** w55 7/15 438 War from Heaven Brings Peace to Earth ***
    And what about Jehovah God? Does he prepare for Armageddon? Well, would you prepare to kill a fly? Would you prepare to squash a bug? Would you do calisthenics every morning for weeks to get in condition to swat a fly? Would you train with barbells for months to make your muscles bulge and give you strength to step on a bug? Would that be necessary?"

    "*** w55 7/15 438 War from Heaven Brings Peace to Earth ***
    So let this old world die with its military boots on if it wishes, but let us live with our theocratic boots on, preaching the good news of peace and singing the praises of Jehovah God!"

    One should think that this is something all Jehovah's Witnesses know very well. How can people walk around pushing such magazines on an unsuspecting population? Magazines, which print such sugar coated articles about a bright future knowing full well that Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the vast majority of the people they talk to have NO future. The children the article talk about in India, Pakistan, Africa and Indo China, etc. They really believe and teach that their God will kill these children, any time now.

    And what is even worse, they call this message “Good News”. They even call it “Jehovah’s Wonderful Purpose for Mankind”. How can someone actually be capable of using such terms to describe the worst holocaust in the history of mankind? How can any sane human being actually be capable to view such a cataclysm as something good? How can the death of over 6 billion people be considered “Good News”, by anyone? How is it possible for people to get perverted to such and extent that they go around spreading literature like this, which quite obviously is grossly dishonest, and hold back the most important part of their “Good News”?

    I realize of course that writing what they really believe in articles like this would cause disgust, loathing, abhorrence and detestation, and rightly so.

    But how can people who really know bring themselves to distribute such literature?

    Part of the explanation for such an irrational and disgusting behavior comes from the fact that people often reflects the attitudes of the deity they worship:

    *** w74 3/1 144 "Become Imitators of God" ***
    And yet whatever their religion, people have imitated, or reflected, in their lives the qualities of the god they worship. A person simply cannot worship a god without, to a great extent, imitating that god.

    As pointed out here by the Watchtower there is of course a clear connection between the attitudes of the deity and the attitudes of the people who worship it. Jehovah's Witnesses worship a “God” that will exterminate all non-Witnesses “real soon now”. And of course this will “solve” all kinds of problems. Crime, poverty, unemployment and smoking will of course be history when 6 billion people are dead.

    Norm.

  • Tina
    Tina

    Hi Norm
    Great stuff!!
    The wts solution makes Hitlers Juderein look like childs play....
    Tina Disgusted Class

  • ICHING
    ICHING

    hi norm -

    in answer to your quandry -

    i remember this scene from an episode of GET SMART:

    Zigfried has Max in a room - suspended by bound wrists from the ceiling - pistol in Max's face

    ZIGFRIED

    (heavy german accent)

    you know vot vee do vith our enemies Smart?

    MAX

    (pauses to think for a moment)

    you ignore them and hope they go away!

    Maybe the boys in the Writing Dept caught a re-run of that epsisode before knocking that article out?

    that's the only explanation i can think of to answer your query right now

    I-CHING

    KAOS CLASS

    PS: norm you work is much appreciated - thanks

    Edited by - ICHING on 24 March 2001 20:11:4

  • RavynX
    RavynX

    Your accurate conclusion that the way 'God's kingdom' will remedy the situation of child labor and poverty, etc by killing most of those the magazine refers to, reminded me of the documentary I saw recently about Vlad the Impaler aka Dracula. One of Vlads favorite methods of solving similar problems in Transylvania, was to invite all the poor, lame, sick and oppressed to his courtyards for a great banquet, at which he would comment that NO ONE in HIS country will be hungry or sick or poverty-stricken. Then he had the gates locked behind them and performed hideous mass slaughter-thus killing everyone who might present a 'problem' to his economic or social policies.... But hey! He was right- NO ONE in HIs country suffered from those troubles!
    Ravyn

  • hippikon
    hippikon

    Sounds like Vlad the Impaler was a man of great insight and his prophesies came true. Maybe it was a minor fulfilment or perhaps prefigured the great evening meal.

  • VPEACE53
    VPEACE53

    JUST REMEMBER IN NOAH'S DAY I GUESS MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT THE SAME WAY YOU DO NOW ...NOAH AND HIS FAMILY WAS SAVED. ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLEBUT NEVER THE LESS, LIKE JEHOVAH'S PEOPLE TODAY WILL SURVIVE.

  • waiting
    waiting

    hey vp53,

    No need to yell. We've been discussing - yes, through history and geography the flood and creation - and their authenticity. Perhaps you'll calm down and stick around for a while?

    We have some exceptional threads going on right now - one is including several active jw's.

    Click here: http://206.61.99.151/forum/thread.asp?id=3642&site=3
    "Is there no good in the WTBTS? In ourselves?"

    Btw, it's ok if we talk - I'm an inactive jw of 30 years in good standing. We can chat and you won't be marked.

    Nice to meet you.

    waiting

    Edited by - waiting on 25 March 2001 10:31:45

  • waiting
    waiting

    Hey Ravyn,

    Are you the same as on H20? If so, I always enjoy reading your posts. Very colorful life story, well, the part about the WTBTS kinda sucks - but the rest is pretty cool.

    If you're a different Ravyn, welcome also. Look forward to hearing more from you.

    waiting

  • patio34
    patio34

    Norm,
    Kudos on that post! I remember placing that magazine and blush now. But I was placing under the influence of WTS.

    I remarked to my son who was saying how fair the Israelites were when conquering the Canaanites that they offered them a chance to surrender. Some chance! It's the same idea today, be a jw or be killed.

    Patio

  • trevor
    trevor

    UPPERCASE - VPEACE53

    Are you Fred Hall? Same grammer mistakes, no doubt deliberate.
    Or are do you have the same supplier? When are you guys going to cut me in?
    It is Christ-like to share.

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