To those contemplating baptism in JWism

by somebody 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • somebody
    somebody

    Hi ya'll!

    The baptismal changes of the incorporated printing factory in the 1980s

    The first is:
    On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?


    The second is:
    Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovahs Witnesses in association with Gods spirit-directed organization?

    Notice that WBTS do not follow what jesus said in Matthew baptize in the name of the Holy Spirit. They have taken out Gods Holy Spirit and replaced it with the spirit of their own man made organization, and call it the Gods organization. And they baptize their followers in the name of it. Why do they do this? Because they believe that only the anointed should have the privilege of being baptized in the Holy Spirit. Which And obviously, they don't batize any anointed anymore. I'm assuming that because of the change in the questions since the 80s.

    This is how they attempt to justify not obeying the authority of Jesus when he said:

    Matthew 28:18,19

    18 And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,

    Here is there reasoning for baptizing there followers in the name of themselves:

    From the Reasoning From the Scriptures book:

    Who is baptized with holy spirit?

    1 Cor. 1:2; 12:13, 27: To you who have been sanctified in union with Christ Jesus, called to be holyones . . . For truly by one spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink one spirit. Now you are Christs body. (As Daniel 7:13, 14, 27 shows, such holy ones share in the Kingdom with the Son of man, Jesus Christ.)

    John 3:5: Unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (A person is born from spirit at the time of his baptism with that spirit. Luke 12:32 shows that only a little flock have that privilege. See also Revelation 14:1-3.)

    And to anyone contemplating dedicating their lives to the WBTS organization, I give you these scriptures to read:

    1 Corinthians 1:12-15

    12 What I mean is this, that each one of YOU says: I belong to Paul, But I to Apol'los, But I to Ce'phas, But I to Christ. 13 The Christ exists divided. Paul was not impaled for YOU , was he? Or were YOU baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I am thankful I baptized none of YOU except Cris'pus and Ga'ius, 15 so that no one may say that YOU were baptized in my name.

    And I ask you to ask yourselves these questions.

    None in the WBTS organization was impaled for you, was he? Are you going to get baptized in the name of this organization instead of the Holy Spirit? Or even get baptized in association with it instead of the Holy Spirit?

    I beg of you to research before you dedicate you life to a printing company. Read your Bible and then compare it to the published material that the publishing company that you are about to become a baptized publisher for, instead of a baptized disciple of Jesus Christ.

    peace,

    gwen

    Edited by - somebody on 12 September 2002 12:13:0

  • Dismembered
    Dismembered

    Great Post Gwen

    In addition I'd like to add the point that Jesus Christ was 30 years old when he was baptized. So to those younger than that, please consider that. Hopefully before you reach 30 you'll change your mind.

  • caligirl
    caligirl

    I brought that very point out to my mother (a pioneer) about Jesus being 30 when I was telling her why I thought it was nuts that my stepson got baptized at 14. I told her that I feel that children have no business committing themselves to something for life. Next month is forever for a child! Her reply left me speechless (and believe me, that doesn't happen very often!). She said that the only reason Jesus was 30 when he was baptized is because he was fulfilling prophesy! This of course means that a child is perfectly capable of understanding what they are saying when they make a lifelong commitment and that if not for that pesky little prophesy, Jesus would have been baptized as a child too. Uggh! I gave up after that.

  • somebody
    somebody

    Good points!

    And of course it doesn't help teens when they read this kind of thing:

    km 10/87 1 Help Others to Dedication and Baptism *** 5 Help your Bible students see that Jehovahs laws and principles are for our good. They must realize that if they wait until the last minute to take a stand for true worship, they could lose out on the prize of life. (Luke 21:34, 35)

    A teen would think this in their minds.... "Do it or die"

    What a nice choice that is, eh?

    I got baptized when I was about 16. I did it because of that kind of pressure. Not because I wanted to dedicate my life to God. I didn't know jack squat about my life or even life itself at that age. I can understand why Jesus got baptized at mature age.

    Thank you for your comments.

    peace,

    gwen

    Edited by - somebody on 12 September 2002 12:12:19

  • Dismembered
    Dismembered

    Uggh! I gave up after that.

    Uggh is right! What a weak-minded shallow arguement. Especially when you consider what the consequences are should any go wayward after getting dunked. It's sickening

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