Don't Walk..Don't Talk..

by Englishman 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    I’m just throwing this one into the ring to see what you think. I know the WTBTS are always beating the drum about “not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together as some have the custom”, but do they really want JW’s actually talking with one another when they aren’t around to monitor the conversation?

    If you think about it, JW’s would appear to have had their opportunities for social intercourse severely curtailed. Look at how assemblies have changed over the years. Lots of smallish ones now, days reduced considerably, not too much time between sessions to converse. Assemblies like little islands of people who now never visit another island, their inhabitants limited to conversing with just a few of their own.

    Take a look at how the feeding arrangements have changed. I have movie film of my parents stood in a long queue at Twickenham, waiting to enter the cafeteria, chatting to anyone who was stood near to them. My father said that the meal queues were essential for JW’s to be able to exchange information with one another. This, he said, were what assemblies were all about, what a blessing those cafeteria queues could be, what a source of spiritual riches, how upbuilding!

    Now, I understand, all that has changed so that opportunities to chat with others have been greatly limited. I wonder why that is do you suppose?

    I am also informed that it is no longer permissible to walk in the concourse during sessions without being instructed to sit down, yet another opportunity for conversation with other strollers has been curtailed. What is it that mustn’t be said?

    It’s not just assemblies either. I understand that it is no longer considered “mature” to go to a different congregations meeting just to visit, this is now limited to visiting speakers and elders. What’s wrong with visiting another congregation? Isn’t the table of Jehovah the same amongst all his congregations? Or is there something else?

    You see, I am starting to realise that the WTBTS has a mammoth problem on its hands. I think that they know that there is much unrest simmering below the surface. They are scared that the R & F will chat openly about 1975. They know that many JW’s aren’t happy about disfellowshipping. Blood is a problem too. Recently, the UN fiasco and now the paedophile issue is fast becoming a really difficult problem for them to shrug off.

    I think that the last thing the WTBTS want is an exchange of information amongst its adherents. That is why, IMO, they are dividing up their numbers into compact units that are extremely limited in their contact with each other, so as to suppress this spread of damaging information.

    Truly a case of Divide and Rule!

    Englishman.

  • dmouse
    dmouse

    I think you might have something there, Englishman.

    I would also add to the pot the latest US Kingdom Ministry (thanks VioletA)which highlights the dangers of speaking to brothers (not apostates)around the world via the Internet.

    The focus is on remaining local.

    Could it be that this granulation makes it easier to control the congregations? If one or many congregations wake up and turn on their masters it's easier to isolate them, preventing any spread of disillusionment to the wider masses. And easier to spread lies about rogue congregations.

    Knowledge and information is power, and the WBTS is jealous of that power. They want COMPLETE control over what the brothers hear.

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Cheers, Dormouse.

    I haven't even started to mention the net..

    Yet.

    Englishman.

  • sleepy
    sleepy

    In the past few years the have been gettng witnesses to only work with those in their own book study group on the ministry , and also making only individual groups go out alone .

    This limits most of your contact to those in your own book study group.The rest of the congregation can seem like strangers.

  • BATHORY
    BATHORY

    Gday pom

    hey does your local have kilkenny on tap ??

    I read your post.

    Clutching for words i am.

    Ahh i found one, hang on ill turn him around a bit...( what does it say ... )..++ crack ++ ( sound to the effect of an old squeeky door amytiville horor style ),

    Humm Humm deluugge at parrammmaattta huh ???

    Ohh ok, it sais Delusional Spiritual Parasitosis.

    Bugger to the power of infinity charlie, you got DSP

    Well you know the only think to combat that dont ya......charlie get the machine that goes PING.

  • BATHORY
    BATHORY

    Have you heard of delusional spiritual parasitosis ???

    And umm get me the machine that goes PING !

  • greven
    greven

    Englishman, you make a very good point here. I have noticed it too. for example the bookstudy leader is now overseer and arranges the ministry from his own small flock. also in my con you could be a bookstudy leader without being elderling, now you have to be elder. some were leaders were very rudely taken from their studies because they weren`t elders even if they had that bookstudy for years and did it quite nicely. the grasp is tightening!!

    greven.

    "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
    -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    LOL @ Greven "in a con"

  • happy man
    happy man

    Hello E.
    thuis time i must tell you that your speculaitions is braingosts, if you understand, as ongoing JW i can tell you that we have 2 ours beetwen the programs to talk, and then the evnings on the summerassambleys.
    So this time you are missing the goal.
    As England will do on Sunday,
    NEVER HEARD OF Ibrahimovich,on sunday evning you will now.
    A loot of greatings from SWEDEN.

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Happy Chappy,

    2 hours eh? That's just about enough time to get to know someone before you feel confident enough to share your doubts. But you won't, of course, because then the meeting will start.

    WoW!

    Englishman.

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