When Did JW's Ever Make You Feel Cared For?

by Englishman 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    So-called “Apostates” are, IMO, actually persons who have been refined in the fires of criticism so that their true personalities shine through. Apostates are the best, most loyal friends in the whole World. They do not have to worry about whether something is right or wrong, they are free to act upon instinct, upon feeling, upon their innermost emotions.

    Not for them the wearisome, tiresome, boring old “It’s either right or it’s wrong” mentality that cripples the acolytes of the WTBTS! Apostates are persons of great courage, real individuals who have been able to shake off the shackles of dub servility that robs its adherents of their very souls.

    How well I recall the Watchtower magazine that stated that there was no place for “Colourful personalities” in the congregation! Even as a child witness, I knew that the very breath of life within me was being sucked away and being replaced with something far more sinister, something insidious that would replace the joy of life with a hollow sensation of inadequacy and guilt.

    I think that an “Apostate” has more moral fibre in his little finger than a JW has in his entire body. Maybe being a JW is some sort of test that has to be gone through in order for a person to become a complete individual. That being the case, maybe it is in our interest for us to avoid contact with these so called “witnesses”.

    Think about it, how many times did a JW make you feel good to be alive? When was the last time a JW made you feel as though you were someone really special, someone approved of, someone who was very loved?

    Who really has the moral high ground, the witnesses or the ex's?

    Englishman.

  • Francois
    Francois

    The ex's by a hundred miles. There's no moral fiber at all in any witness anywhere. They're all stamped out of the same cookie-cutter.

    "No colorful personalities" my achin' ass. Everyone here is colorful in their own way. The JW? Gray, shades of gray.

    Well, on second thought, I guess being a pedophile, hypocritical, pharisacial JW elder is kinda colorful: prison orange.

    Francois

  • D wiltshire
    D wiltshire

    Eman,

    You are gifted.
    I wish I could put thoughts like that to pen.

    Join the Watchtower or you will die.
    Only Jehovah's Witnesses have the TRUTH all other religions EVIL and from the Devil.
    You must beleive the Watchtower or you're going to die a painful death forever, isn't that really GOOD NEWS?
  • dedalus
    dedalus

    Well, E-man, there was the time an elder told me it'd be better for my mother to kill herself dead than remain disfellowshipped. That display of caring kindness sure gave me the warm fuzzies!

    Dedalus

  • TexSham
    TexSham

    Better to Rule in Hell than Server in Heaven!

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Beautifully written, sir.

    You ROCK, dude!

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    Englishman: You have a beautiful way to make one feel great about themselves and the choices that they have made. You make me feel happy to be alive.
    As a witness I can maybe count on one hand any act of caring and kindness given to me over a 38 yrs span in the Org. One was never allowed to feel good about themselves, it was considered the sin of pride, you were critized if you ate or drank and felt good about life, it was considered the sin of self indulgence. you couldn't get to familiar with the opposite sex as that was considered the first step to sin of fornication. If you didn't participate in the meeting you lacked faith in the power of the Holy Spirit. If you had friends your own age and associated with them too much you committed the sin of ignoring older and wiser brothers and sisters. If you didn't get out in the ministry every week you were considered weak and feeble spritually and lacked trust in God giving you the power beyond what was normal. If you didn't prepare your WatchTower and Bookstudy material you suffered the sin of being "spiritually shallow" and lacked apprecaition for the faithful and discreet slave class. If you walked with confidence and held your head up high you were not only haughty but perhaps would fall into Satans trap of the " me spirit". Free thinking is not allowed, nor independant thinking.
    I think at every turn in the organization you were considered either in or out and you could not be on the fringes or you were not allowed to associate with the so-called elite in the Kingdom Hall. Oh yes they cared, they cared that they wanted everything to look good on the outside. God forbid if you didn't. In the org. they have a critera that you are suppose to fit into. If you don't fit that mould then they didn't care about you. They wanted to get rid of you. Great Christ like love. I am so relieved to be free of the chains of bondage in the organization.
    I live life to the fullest today and I am free to make all the choices I want to. And I also have many friends know who really care sincerely about me. That is more than what I exprerienced in the congregations I was in.
    If you had more money than someone else you were always invited out, if you were poor you were always poor seldom invited out. I have seen so much segregation, bigotry,and class distinctions and cliques to make you feel sick for a life time.
    Barriers exist, walls that cannot be penetrated if you for one moment don't fit in and you did make one mistake you were not worthy of any kindesses. You are marked and that is the plain and simple turth. For one moment if you fall and then return, you are never treated the same way ever again. No matter what.
    So much for Jesus' illustration of 100 sheep and one goes astray and leaves the 99 to find the one, that erred and there is to be more rejoicing in finding that one then the rest of the flock. Thats it. It is only an illustration to read, but not applied in the organization. I will soar like an eagle and feel the air of freedom.
    Englishman
    Thankyou
    God Bless
    Orangefatcat

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Back in the mid-1980s, when I was in some serious short term financial trouble, I asked a couple of fellow elders for help, and word got around, and I received a total of about $3,500 in an interest free deal ... to be paid back as I could.

    I paid back all, except the last $500, which I tried to pay, but the brother and his wife would not accept any repayment. He and his wife went on to serve at Bethel.

    There were other negative things I experienced or witnessed, but this particular time was one where I felt genuine help and concern. I have to give credit to these perticular JW men who I counted as friends.

    Following Bible principles, we will avoid trying to live - or demand others to live - by an extensive and rigid set of dos and don'ts that go beyond the teachings of the Bible. The Watchtower, 4-15-02, pg 22, pp 15

  • COMF
    COMF

    When my wife and I split up, more often than not I had our two sons staying with me, even though she initially got custody of them (long story). At the time I had a 90-mile commute to Houston to work, and the crew I worked with left out early in order to beat the morning traffic. It was almost a 2 hour drive, and we left at 5:00 so as to be at work at 7:00 and leave at 4:00, before the afternoon traffic got bad.

    A sister in our congregation did daycare in her home. Her normal hours were 7:30 to 5:30, but for me she made a special case. At 4:30 AM she would meet me at the door and hold it open as I carried in each of my sleeping boys and laid them on her couch.

    I paid her for the daycare service, but she didn't have to go that extra mile. I always remember her when I think of the inherent goodness in people.

    COMF

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    When i was a jw, i was meaningfully helped by other dubs a couple of times. On the other hand, when i was younger, and couldn't help myself, they totally abandoned me. These were small town dubs. Big city dubs are who helped out a bit.

    SS

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