Deception From District Convention

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  • Mister Biggs
    Mister Biggs

    This is a long article. The writer's e-mail address is provided at the bottom. In reading this, you will see how the JW's are misleading, how they use fear and/or scare tactics, and how women get no respect. What things in this article ticked you off? Are you going to send any clarifications to the writer of this article? I plan to.

    Here's the article. My thoughts are in RED. Starbulletin.com


    Mary Adamski

    View from the Pew
    A look inside Hawaii's houses of worship

    By Mary Adamski
    Saturday, July 27, 2002



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    FL MORRIS / [email protected] A biblical drama with elaborate, realistic costuming and makeup was held Monday at the Jehovah's Witnesses District Convention. Glenn Tateishi, Harold Kim and Clarence Minami, from left, waited backstage prior to the start of the play.

    (These fellows look fake, don't they?)


    Modesty and simplicity
    seen as virtues

    Here they were, more than 1,000 people who make their pitch by going door-to-door, so a first thought was to compare their annual conference to a sales group convention.

    Indeed, there were three days of pep talks and how-to tips and role model speakers reminding conventioneers about the corporate goals. But bragging was not to be heard, not even about the numbers of those sold and brought into the fold.

    What could be further from a sales convention than Florante and Leah Nacion's story about simplifying their life, letting go of one car, the cell phone, and gym membership and working toward the goal of low-paying jobs at the headquarters in Brooklyn, N.Y. (Low paying jobs?!? They are called "volunteer's" for a reason. It's called no-paying jobs. I wonder where she got the idea that they recieve a paycheck?)

    Another preconception held by this visitor to the Jehovah's Witnesses 2002 District Convention last weekend in their Mililani Assembly Hall was to expect the hullabaloo of an arena event so predictable in a modern church gathering. Get more than 1,000 church people together in one big hall and there's bound to be major music and speakers revved to an entertainment pitch and flamboyant, wordy prayers, right? How else can you hold the crowd for three days? (The prayers weren't wordy? She must've missed the cloing prayer on Sunday!)

    Wrong again. A few hymns were interspersed amid dozens of lectures, giving an occasional opportunity to stand. Only one brief prayer was expressed all day, just before the baptism of two dozen people. (This can't be accurate. There had to be an opening and a closing prayer, right?)

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    FL MORRIS / [email protected] Danielle Sanches applied finishing touches on Monday to the makeup of Aima Pahukoa for a religious drama.


    The program was speakers, speakers and more speakers. There are no big name guest keynoter, members are groomed to be speakers. Each congregation has a Theocratic Ministry School in which youths are assigned subjects, do research and develop discussion skill, under the guide of elders. (I guess a member of the Governing Body didn't make this one, eh? There were some big names at the convention's on the East Coast. Regarding the TMS, she is under the impression that only youths are enrolled. She must not realize that every publisher must be enrolled in the school if they want any respect from the elder's.)

    All male, except for a few women participants in mini-skits, they were earnest, low-key, relentlessly citing Biblical chapter and verse. The conventioneers were as serious as students on the day before the test, taking copious notes and flipping to each of dozens of scriptural sources. (Women are only good for sex, cooking dinner, and mini-skits! LOL! Ahhh, life as a JW woman...)

    Most impressive was the fact that many of the note takers were teenagers. Dressed up in Sunday best -- not a slipper, shorts or T-shirt to be seen --- the youths scribbled away, chin to chest. One speaker focused on modesty -- and why it rules out bared navels and the Goth and grunge looks -- and another had suggestions for steering common gossipy, sports or "secular" conversation into spiritual subjects. (Rules out bare navels? Those damn belly buttons are the key to immorality! Didn't you know that the angels overlooked the breasts and the butts of the women and keyed in on their navels? THAT'S what REALLY happened. Jehovah left that part out of the Bible. Oh, and JW's can't talk about sports or secular things? I guess from now on the socializing that occurs after the meetings will sound like a Television on MUTE because anyone who is anyone knows that JWs love talking about sports, secular things, and they ESPECIALLY like to gossip!)

    "All nations, corporations, individuals today want to be the best. Modesty is viewed as a failing," said Larry Nelson. (Nice of Mr. Nelson to sterotype ALL nations and corporations and people to view modesty as a failing. I guess this means that only Jehovah's Witnesses practice being modest.)

    "Modesty is a realistic evaluation of your competence before Jehovah. Lack of modesty is what led to the sexual abuse of children by priests. It led to large-scale thievery by corporations." (I will leave this comment alone. I want to see how this comment makes you feel. You may add your commentary to this one.)

    The July 20 session drew families from Pearl City and Aiea. It was one of 14 three-day conventions drawing more than 14,000 church members throughout the summer to the Witnesses' two-year-old meeting hall in Mililani Tech Park.

    Years of encounters with "publishers" -- those people who go door-to-door -- and "pioneers" -- they do it full-time -- led me to expect dire predictions and descriptions of Armaggedon. They teach that this "time of the end" has been underway since 1914. But, they believe, once God eliminates the present system of things in a great battle, a kingdom under Christ will rule the earth in righteousness and peace.

    Speakers didn't grind on it but it was a throwaway line in many a talk. (Great term: "throwaway line". That's exactly how they use it. They flaunt it around so freely. Continue reading to see what the throwaway line is.)

    "Each day brings us closer to Jehovah's Day," Dun Uchimura told the crowd. (Fear tactic. "I better wise up. Jehovah's day is almost here!")

    "Nationalistic wars are a sign the end of the present system is near," said Joseph DeMoor. (Fear tactic. "Crap! I am running out of time. I need to do better so that Jehovah doesn't destroy me!")

    "We need faith in the last days as we approach the great tribulation," Ron Miyamoto told candidates for baptism. (Fear tactic. "Oh, no! The Great Tribulation. There's no time to waste. I better get baptized as a JW so that I can receive god's protection.")

    "God's Kingdom of 1,000 Years" was one hymn, and another asserted "Jehovah's Day of Vengeance is drawing ever near. God's watchmen must give warning, each stands his position, the time is getting short." (Fear tactic. You'd better be nervous if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses!)

    Members don't get bonus points for people they add to the flock, although they may keep personal track, he said. People aren't going to be tested on their notes but they, particularly the youth, will be prepared for future discussion groups in individual Kingdom Halls. (Puh-LEEZE! No bonus points??? If you're a male your bonus points will be commendations, respect, adjulations, power, and authority. For a woman, however, there are no bonus points. Sorry.)

    "Jesus is the son of God but is not God," said church leader GaryWong, and they also reject teachings common in Christianity such as hellfire, immortality of the soul and "worldly holidays based on pagan beliefs." (Hmm. I notice that the Writer refers to non-JW religions that claim to follow Christ as Christianity. I guess she wasn't listening when the JW speakers referred to them as Christendom.)

    You won't find Jehovah's Witnesses participating in any interfaith gathering: "Our beliefs are very different. We don't believe we can share with them," Wong said. "We respect them." (How can Mr. Wong state that JWs respect non-JWs, especially when, at the JW conventions and meetings, they blast the Catholic church (see one of the quotes above), Christendom, and any other non-JW religion? You can flip through many a Watchtower and read articles and view drawings of non-JW religions being ridiculed and slaughtered.)

    A member who is seen to stray from the belief system may find himself or herself "disfellowshipped." It's a decision made by an individual congregation, for such things as drunkenness and immorality, such as living with someone not your legal spouse, Wong said. (Mr. Wong forgot to mention "or, having doubts".)

    Smoking is on the list of forbidden behavior. Research done in the 1960s convinced the church that "tobacco is ... addictive, it is inviting the demons in," Wong said. (Someone else here at JW.com needs to explain this one to me. Inviting the demons in??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

    The people who decided to be baptized had to demonstrate knowledge of beliefs, have faith and be repentant. It is seen as "a symbol of unconditional devotion to Jehovah" and is not required of church members. (Am I reading this wrong? NOT required of church members???)

    The assembly hall contains a small waist-deep tiled pool behind doors that were folded open to allow the crowd to watch the immersion baptisms. Two strong men helped dunk men and women who donned shorts and T-shirts for the experience. No words were said -- they don't believe in the Trinity.

    The baptisms provided the only touch of drama for the day. But, said information officer Bruce Wakukawa, "We don't believe there is any magic in it."



    RELIGION CALENDAR



    Mary Adamski covers religion for the Star-Bulletin.
    Email her at [email protected].
  • Scully
    Scully

    Interesting post Biggsy!

    You asked: "Smoking is on the list of forbidden behavior. Research done in the 1960s convinced the church that "tobacco is ... addictive, it is inviting the demons in," Wong said. (Someone else here at JW.com needs to explain this one to me. Inviting the demons in??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)"

    The WTS has, for a long time, linked the use of tobacco with the 'work of the flesh' (Gal 5:19-21) that is translated "practice of spiritism". The original Greek word "pharmakia" means 'druggery', and is the root word of our modern English word "pharmacy" (no brainer, right?). Apparently spirit mediums used drugs to induce an altered state of consciousness, and prepare themselves for seances, divination or other spiritistic practices. I believe they even made reference to the North American Indian tribal shamans using tobacco in their rituals.

    If they are going to ban certain parts of "pharmakia", then why not all of it?? (It reminds me of the pagan origins of wedding rings and wedding attire and wedding cakes that is permissible, while Christmas and Easter pagan things are forbidden.)

    If a JW is diabetic and takes insulin or glucophage or glucagon or diabeta, they are practicing "pharmakia".

    If a JW has an infection, taking appropriate antibiotics for it involves their engaging in "pharmakia".

    If a JW is depressed?? Forget taking Prozac, or Zoloft, or Luvox, or Paxil, or Celexa! Just go out in service more and you'll feel better! (Oh yeah... they already say that!)

    Love, Scully

  • Mister Biggs
    Mister Biggs

    So, in other words, Scully, the drug has to be approved by the FDA? LOL!

  • MikeMusto
    MikeMusto

    the writer looks like a butch lesbian.....

  • Scully
    Scully

    Biggsy:

    "So, in other words, Scully, the drug has to be approved by the FDA? LOL!"

    or approved by the "FDS"! LMAO

    It also means that every time Milton Henschel and Ted Jaracz go to CVS Pharmacy to buy "Depends", they are "pharmakating". LOL

    Love, Scully

    Edited by - Scully on 29 July 2002 11:26:8

  • Mister Biggs
    Mister Biggs

    Oh, Scully! You are TOO funny. Thanks for the laugh!!!

  • siegswife
    siegswife

    If smoking is akin to opening yourself up to demon possession, does that mean that the founders and early adherents to this religion could have been demonized?

    Didn't they used to allow smoking when they came up with this load of of crap that passes for a religion?

    How could anyone trust a religion where the first people who thought it was a good idea/made sense were open for demon possession?

  • lauralisa
    lauralisa

    Hi, Mr Biggs,

    Your post interested me very much, and I have a few thoughts:

    I've been to two District conventions in Hawaii. My best friend lived there for two years when her Army Ranger husband was stationed on Oahu. I went there the first time to make sure she actually went (crowbar in hand) and the second time to watch her get baptised. I spent enough time there to get to know the other witlesses, attend the other meetings, and go out to acquire numbers to put on a slip of paper to validate my existence. Oh - and even a witness Tupperware party!

    Ironically, my friend attended the Mililani congregation.

    The ratio on Oahu of witnesses to regular people is staggeringly high, as is the number of those who pioneer. In some areas they cover their territories in like a couple of hours. I guess the number of witnesses living in the community is such that their potential affect on the local economy and influence on people must be "accommodated" if not outright capitalized on by the press. (An average person encounters a witness virtually every single day; the culture is very oriented around being well-mannered and polite, so there is very little slamming of doors there. One can only surmise that many conversations on many topics take place (just to keep the "time" going for the jw; just to not bring disgrace upon the family by being curt or rude for the non-jw?).

    I see the "feature" article of course from this cynical viewpoint.

    Hawaiian women are extremely beautiful..... I've never seen so many acrylic nails, perfectly accessorized outfits, and expert, flawless grooming in one place, ever, in my life. I have to say, though that "modest" is NOT an accurate typification of style. New York's most prominent socialites would look "dowdy" in comparison with these bejeweled princesses... guess it depends on the definition of "modest;" most jw propaganda leads on to believe 'modest' is not calling undue attention to your self. That being said, at one point my friend and I were out walking during the lunch break, and I laughed upon seeing a hooker hanging around the perimeter of the convention site - "guess she won't get much business around here hardy har har" - then we noticed her name badge....

    My friend, who'd been my best friend for almost 20 years, who'd grown up in New York, who could take a linebacker down with her pinky and out-swear any sailor, who was a former owner of a health and weight-training business, became a virtual invalid after accommodating the jw lifestyle. She was stubborn enough to force herself to embrace it mentally, but her internal "this is screwed up" alarms would eventually find a way to manifest through physical, inexplicable chronic pain.

    She lost her husband, and life savings, and 'spark'. I have pleaded with her to contact me "HEY - we are both out now - let's get on with our lives here!!!" but she will not. I don't know why; perhaps it had something to do with the fact that I felt compelled to threaten to squeal on her after one occasion of reefer madness if she didn't go straight to the elders and turn herself in (OMG - the entire spiritual welfare of her congregation was at stake here and my children would not survive the big A if I didn't do what was "right"...

    Val, if you could know how much I miss and need you, and how much I regret being the one to introduce you to this nightmare.....

  • SYN
    SYN

    Some insightful commentary there, Mister Biggs! If only this poor reporter knew what we knew about the BORG! It's obvious that she only sees the surface of the Society, and not it's dark underbelly.

  • Xander
    Xander

    I dunno - we get the same kind of BS in our papers here. Nary a negative word spoken of them.

    Which can only mean one of two things:

    1) They have moles in the press.

    2) The 21st century press are a bunch of dipf*cks that can't see below the surface of a clear glass table.

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