THIS IS HOW TO CRUMBLE THE wtbts!!

by Special K 25 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Special K
    Special K

    I was reading "run dont walks" topic on "When the governing body dies off then what happens?" Great post.

    What we need to do, since there are alot of just "faded" members of the J.W. organization here with us is this..

    Next year, all you just faded ones, (the ones not disfellowshipped or disassociated) go to the memorial and "DRINK THE WINE AND EAT THE UNLEAVENED BREAD"... .. Brilliant isnt it. I'm so impressed with myself.

    THEN, after that, work your way up to being replacements for the governing body... and we'll be home free.

    Gradually we will replace the members of the governing body as they die off.

    TA..DA!!! OOOH ... I'm feeling so clever today.

  • Brummie
    Brummie

    LOL.

    Back to the drawing board...

    Brummie

  • Shakita
    Shakita

    Ha!

    I'm game......except there might be a small problem being that I am FEMALE!!!!!....

    Mrs. Shakita

  • shotgun
    shotgun

    Thats an interesting idea Special K....although it sounds gross why don't you replace the wine with blood and after they drink they'll have to df themselves.

    Honestly though.....I followed run don't walks thread and thought about supplying the IRS with alot of the info we see on this site with the whole donation scandal and Brooklyn receiving funds from over 200 countries where funds are solicited for the literature and not by voluntary contribution.

    Then I thought as soon as someone starts to hassel the Org they will interpret this to millions as fulfillment of bible prophecy. I do know when I look around the halls that the population of attendees seems to be getting older and dying off with only the children for the most part being baptized. The 3rd world countries with huge increases inflate the annual increase...those poor people live in such poor conditions that a paradise hope is to appealing to pass up.

    Maybe there is no magic pill to quiet the society.....maybe whats required is whats happening....as hard as it is for me to accept that. If Mormons, Christadephians, Muslims, Moonies and Holy Rollers are still thriving it may be the case that many will always beleive what they find comfort in. With JW's I think as the GB dies off more and more reforms will be made because non-annointed ones will not have as much pride to swallow and they won't fear reprisal as they admit to being mere men...not gods henchmen.

    But I am open to lynching if you think it will help...they have certainly done that to enough good people who visit this site.

  • Latin assassin from Manhattan
    Latin assassin from Manhattan

    Good one Special K. But to really take down the WTS you need the following:

    1) An organization with enough money to produce it's own material

    2) Create material that exposes the failings of the WTS on all fronts including:

    - child abuse coverups

    - flawed doctrine (including the never decreasing numbers of the GB, unfulfilled WTS prophecies etc.)

    - financial scandals (why they still charge for literature in other countries, tax loopholes, exploitation of workers)

    - negative social effects on it's followers (isolation from friends/family, discourage from attending college)

    3) Create teams of distributors who will stand on the opposite street corner from the JWs and distribute the material

    4) Create teams of infiltrators who will work their way up in the organization. When an 'infiltrator' is given the opportunity to give a talk in the KH, he will read OUR material and not the WTS. If not, we'll make sure that we have people getting the 'mike' in order to give our own comments instead.

    5) Develop mass mailings in communities frequented by JWs.

    In conclusion, we need to raise not only the awareness of people on the 'outside', but also that of the followers who have no idea that the lives of their children are in peril each time they place them in the hands of perverts. Parents are throwing their lives away in persuit of an ever changing day of judgement.

  • Ravyn
    Ravyn

    there are enough of us to take the watchtower down. dont get me started! the problem is no one wnats to put themselves out and get involved and risk the pain. if everyone on this forum made one phone call to their local newspaper and one phone call to a National newspaper about the JWs and the the scandals it would HAVE to be noticed. If everyone on this forum wrote one letter about the same^ and then took it out and made 10 copies to go to local government and National government and media the postal systems would cry for relief! But to make it work it would have to be done all at the same time, on some kind of schedule. people won't committ or cooperate. And I have heard all the excuses about risking losing family and dealing with abuse themselves and at different stages in their process...yadayadayada. and good for the ones 'behind the scenes' but if it went public -bigtime public- it could level the playing field considerably. It could be done with minimum personal involvement. One single well written letter could be copied and sent out and there would be nothing more personal than licking the stamp. Who said you had to sign your name? Do it in the name of JWD or SilentLambs....

    oh (sigh) nevermind.

    Ravyn

  • willy_think
    willy_think

    hi S. K.

    One thing you are overlooking is that if you eat and drink you will be marked as a nut case and closely watched.

  • Special K
    Special K

    Hey shotgun.

    Ye..ah.. Kind of gross replacing the wine with blood, but a good laugh at the thought of it.

    I Liked your thought about the "whole donation scandal and what they are doing in third world nations...I didn't know that.. and I'm really mad at them now... I was mad and now I'm stomping mad.

    The magic pill... ooohhhh! if it was only possible. you could slip one in sleeping beauty's drink. Daydreaming is good. It's healthy and helps one's mind to escape.

    Hey Latin Assassin from Manhattan

    WOW!!! you have got it all layed out, Man. I think you have been thinking about this before.

    #2 Create material that exposes the failings of the WTS on all fronts.... That's do-able isn't it?

    There are so many eloquent writers on this forum, that I'm sure they could write it up.

    #5 develop a mass mailing in communities frequented by J.W.'s. That's do-able.

    I think we may have something here!! Something worthwhile.

    Ravyn.

    Do you think a phone call to local papers would Help.. or writing one letter with 10 copies to send to local government.

    your other thought I liked was "minimum involvement could be to send one well written letter.

    I remember sending ONE well written letter to the government in Malawi back when persecution of the JW there was going on. If we couldn't write a letter, then one (a form type letter) was provided for us to send. Again, couldn't one of our member on this forum give us an example of how and what to write in it. I'd send some. not a problem. I am disfellowshipped, what else can they do to me? I already lost my family.

    Willy-think

    I suppose your right, of the "faders" who drank the wine and ate the bread" would be thought of as nut cases.

    But, on the second hand .. look at the upset it would cause in so many congregations.. Think about how much upset this would cause for them. Nice THOUGHT TO ME! Also, alot of ones who are attending and going in service who don't believe are on this site too... would they be thought of as a nut case.. not necessarily.

    Special K

  • Gamaliel
    Gamaliel

    Good one. Become replacements to the Governing Body. At Bethel, away back in the 70's and 80's we used to "bet" on who would start partaking based on their chance of higher promotions which they would obviously be in line for if they were only in the "bread and wine club". (Brother Ulysses Glass, for example.)

    Infiltration is tough, but it could be a lot easier and quicker than waiting for "decades of faithful service" to compete with the other GB candidates. A group of regular Bethelites could use a press to print special inserts or special versions of the Watchtower, or better yet, internal publications like the km's and songbooks, and then hide them and later have them snuck into the trucks for delivery to the Postal services and KH's. Or how about sound cars in front of KHs before [during?] and after each meeting. Or how about putting a short-distance FM or CB transmitter and receiver into the sound system and broadcasting your own public talk over the regular public talk. Or how about replacing the Kingdom Song music with actual embarrassing old talks by Rutherford. (They might even be interested to hear a remake of the old famous "Advertise, advertise, advertise the king and his kingdom" speech from 1922 and then get a small jolt to hear the preceding phrase which always gets edited out "Do you believe it? Do you believe that the King of glory is present, and has been since 1874?".)

    Many of these activities are illegal or unethical. But Ravyn is right. Each of us has the power to reduce their increases and their numbers by a percentage in our own countries just by notifying the right people and media outlets. Posing questions to JW forums and emal addresses wherever possible. Getting information into newspapers, radio, television, books, magazines, websites, churches, laundrymats, police stations, store bulletin boards, etc, etc. There are plenty of opportunities, even if we aren't coordinated. And with a forum like this, there is no excuse not to get coordinated if enough people want to.

    There are several good posts on this site or from exJW web sites that might deal with the subject of your choice. Get permission from the writer and print out a few copies. Walk into a KH whenever you are out of town and leave a few print-outs in the coat room, inside some of the lost and found Bibles and songbooks, in the bathroom, in the contribution boxes, under your chair, etc. (litter-ature) With a little ingenuity there are ways to get these things read if you think about the snoopy and gossipy nature of some JWs. You can even write anonymous letters to any elders you know and they will definitely read the letter if they have a feeling that it is coming from someone in the congregation. Let your imaginations run wild!

    But I'd hope that anyone who undertakes such work realizes that it's serious and there can be consequences. As the JWs lose faith, they need something to fall back on, some kind of support mechanisms. Are we as willing to accommodate for that need? If the JWs drop 2 or 3 percent a year based on exJW efforts at exposure, they can still have millions of adherents after several decades. (10,000,000 with a 2% drop per year leaves close to 4,000,000 after 50 years. That's still more than they had when I was a JW.) That might be discouraging, but there's always a good chance that even small initial losses will produce doubts and issues which have a "negative critical mass" effect or snowballing effect to drive the numbers down even faster. It may produce some insane new strategies or policies from the WTS that drive even more people out at a faster rate.

    Think too that as JWs begin to lose money that KH support falls upon those who dig in their heels and decide to contribute even more to keep their little "paradise" afloat. A JW father may decide to contribute a huge sum to the WTS that he was otherwise about to give to his two daughters for their college fund. Think about the moral and ethical issues and decide if you still wish to interfere with people's lives and mental security/stability. After that...GO FOR IT!!!

    Gamaliel

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    Ravyn.... interesting post... I agree with what you said. I also think that a 'sleeping giant' issue is the way families are split up AND suicide brought about by Shunning. I think that the media would go bonkers if they were aware of how big a problem this is. It has all of the elements of good story telling.... betrayed love/loyalty, death, etc. etc...

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