God's Weapons !!!

by thinker 9 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • thinker
    thinker

    I think it is fair to say that whoever wrote Genesis had a very limited scientific understanding of the world in which he lived. Most of nature was a mystery to him.
    Let us examine what he did "know"; namely, God lived in heaven, which was in the sky. (Offerings to God were burned so that the smoke would carry the offering to heaven.)

    Assuming this is true, is it possible that if such a man were caught outside during a thunderstorm he might think God was angry? Rain, wind, thunder and lightning all coming down from heaven. And when the storm ended and the warm sun began to shine, would he think God was no longer angry?
    And what would he think if a bright arc of color appeared in heaven? Using his reasoning abilities he might assume this thing, which appeared out of nowhere; in heaven, belonged to God. He might compare it to things here on earth. To him it might resesmble a bow like the archers used. Could it be that the story of the Flood isn't really about a flood at all? Could it be just a way of explaining rainbows?
    If my assumptions are correct the author of Genesis thought a rainbow was God's bow ( a weapon ) which God had hung up on the wall of heaven as a sign of peace (after the violence of the storm).
    Ge 9:13 I set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of a covenant between Me and the earth.
    Ge 9:14 "And it shall come about, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud,
    Ge 9:16 "When the bow is in the cloud, then I will look upon it, to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth."

    If he believed God had a bow, he would likely think God had arrows also. These arrows would have been in use prior to the time God hung up his bow. What would these arrows be? Lightning!!!
    Following these assumptions, we should be able to find bible references to lightning as God's arrows.

    Psa77:17 The clouds poured out water: the skies sent out a sound: thine (God's) arrows also went abroad.

    2 Samuel 22:15
    He (God) shot arrows and scattered [the enemies], bolts of lightning and routed them.

    Psalm 18:14
    He shot his arrows and scattered [the enemies], great bolts of lightning and routed them.

    Psalm 144:6
    Send forth lightning and scatter [the enemies]; shoot your arrows and rout them.

    Psalm 64:7 But God shall shoot at them with an arrow; suddenly shall they be wounded.

    Num24:8 God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.

    Deu32:23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I (God) will spend mine arrows upon them.

    Psa7:13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he (God) ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors.

    For me to believe the bible is true I would need to abandon my understanding of rainbows as refracted sunlight and lightning as a natural discharge of electricity. It seems clear to me that the bible says rainbows are God's bow which He uses to shoot lightning arrows down upon the earth!

  • d0rkyd00d
    d0rkyd00d

    great post. :) A lot of Bible stories are fishy. Take manna for instance. I forgot where i saw this, but in the desert where the Israelites were, manna supposedly fell from the sky at night. There is a huge group of trees by this desert that give off a dust that is edible, sometimes stacking several inches high. It is carried by the wind into the desert. If you were these people, wouldn't you think it was God giving you this "food"? I mean, food doesn't just blow off of trees and land in the desert, does it......

    "No cool quote yet. but i'll think of one soon."

  • thinkers wife
    thinkers wife

    DD,
    I never heard of that! Is that true? If so cool!!
    TW

  • patio34
    patio34

    Thinker,
    Bingo!

    DD,
    That really is a great point. It would be interesting to have more info about it!

    Felicitations!
    Pat

  • logical
    logical

    DD, I thought it was hallucinogenic mushrooms.

    There are so many explanations for it, cant people just accept the event of a miracle?

  • blondie
    blondie

    I know the story about Jonah is "fishy."

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    dorky

    >There is a huge group of trees by this desert that give off a dust that is edible, sometimes stacking several inches high.

    Pollen, maybe? But anyway, this theory sounds a bit fishy.

    SS

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    dorkydood

    I believe the theory to which you refer is put forward by Verner Keller in his book "The Bible as History " in which he debunks a lot of Bible miracles and attempt to explain them by natural causes.
    But, the manna came all year round wherever they were.Although it would not keep overnight,except on the Sabbath day, when it did.Manna did not come on the sabbath.

    Thinker

    Interesting post, a theory full of ifs and maybes and assumptions. have you never considered the figurative content of some passages?
    I do not know how much Moses or the original writer of Genesis knew about Metreology but nothing makes me doubt the authenticity of the writing written from a human standpoint,looking up to the sky etc.
    Its easy to pick holes if you try hard enough but the Bible still holds upfor me.

  • cat1759
    cat1759

    Now this is a different theory. LOL...would be interesting to find out.

    I also agree with the bible on its history. That is about it. I think the main quest for the bible was to show love. Also I just found out that books were taken out of the bible. So I gather they have the information needed to make a more informed decision on the bible.
    The only one I am sure of right now is the book of Thomas.
    I think once all the pieces are put back in the bible..things will be what they should have been in the first place.
    Religion was created to keep people downtrodden. If they did what they were told they would go to heaven. If they were bad, they were going to hell.
    They didnt want anyone thinking for themselves. That includes the WTBTS.
    cathy

  • thinker
    thinker

    Dear BluesBrother,
    Your reply has only reinforced my point. Most people who say the bible is "true" really mean it is truly symbolic. "True" to them is not the same as "literal".
    In the era of the bible writers, rainbows and lightning were truly miraculous, therefore the sole provence of God.
    In 1886 C.T. Russell wrote "The reproduction of living organisms,
    either animal or vegetable, is beyond our comprehension, as well as beyond our power--hence miraculous." (God's Divine Plan)
    In Russell's day reproduction was "miraculous" and the sole provence of God. Today the reproduction of humans (cloning) is not restricted by a lack of knowledge, but by man-made laws prohibiting the use of available knowledge.

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