It's Official! The Governing Body IS the Faithful and Discreet Slave (Annual Meeting Report - jw.org)

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  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    So just a quick redux.

    Those at pentacost were annointed and are part of the 144K, but they are not the FDS.

    There is no longer a need to have a member of the annointed, which USED TO BE analgous to the FDS, alive on earth throughout all time.

    With 1919 as the selection date, Russel would be annointed, but not part of the FDS.

    This would make Rutherford and subsaquent leaders along with who they choose, part of the FDS.

    Other annointed people, are NOT part of the FDS.

    The FDS only consists of people claiming to be annointed, even the new guy who is 47.

    Does that about do it for bullet points on the "new understanding". Just a side point, I have already had a few people tell me, this is what they already thought was taught. Hilarious!

  • minimus
    minimus

    NOBODY ever understood the Society's definition of the FDS before either. They'd always say, "it's the Governing Body, right"?" I'd explain the view and they still never got it. How could they? It was always effed up.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    There is no longer a need to have a member of the annointed, which USED TO BE analgous to the FDS, alive on earth throughout all time.

    It occured to me that this answers how over the centuries, there can still only be 144k, despite all the partakers. They just got written off the books.

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    a group paedophile enabling middle aged men are The Slave! lovely.

  • Simon Morley
    Simon Morley

    This is unbelievable! R&F will have no clue - we are better informed than they are!

  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    There is no longer a need to have a member of the annointed, which USED TO BE analgous to the FDS, alive on earth throughout all time.

    It occured to me that this answers how over the centuries, there can still only be 144k, despite all the partakers. They just got written off the books.

    My thoughts as well. They are stearing the ship through iceburgs, moving very slowly, small turns at rapid intervals. Its really kind of brilliant.

    I still think the only way to reach anyone who is willing to believe this stuff, is to address the punative measures of the faith by simply having an unrecanted difference of viewpoint. It is indefenseable. In my personal experience, nobody really cares about whether they said people from Sodom and Gom were going to be resurrected or not. Not even me. It just doesn't stick. Here they will not even notice it either.

  • sd-7
    sd-7
    What I would like to know is why it took from 1919 until 2012 for the faithful and discreet slave to figure out that they are the faithful and discreet slave and that the rest of the 144,000 are not...

    Excellent point. From the time right after they were appointed--when they were teaching that Russell was the slave--until now, while they're having to again correct their own understanding, it really underscores the absolute idiocy involved.

    Question: HOW can we trust a group of men to correctly interpret the Bible WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT THEIR OWN IDENTITY? This should be the single most basic doctrine since it's clearly the most important one to them, and they can't figure out their own identity. God's channel of communication can't even figure out who makes up God's channel of communication. And yet God is communicating with them and took 93 years to tell them who they were.

    The other thing is, it erases the potential counterpoint of their needing to establish an unbroken chain of individuals from 100 C.E. to 1919 C.E. who made up the "faithful slave". It also makes the Governing Body more exclusive and more unique, thus solidifying the "prophet" status even further. Because if they're saying there wasn't a "faithful slave" until them, and not even the apostles qualified as such, they're making themselves a sort of exception to the rule. They were appointed without getting any form of inspiration from God, unlike EVERY OTHER PROPHET IN THE HISTORY OF MAN. As Don Cameron put it--the 'uninspired true prophet'.

    The other thing is, they're putting the cart before the horse here. The master only appoints the slave over the domestics to give them food, not to give them orders. The master is the one who gives orders, not the slave. Otherwise he would've been a faithful and discreet overseer. There's no mention of any kind of supervisory authority beyond giving food ("appointed him over his domestics TO give them their food at the proper time" indicates specific purpose and not a carte blanche scenario). Only after the master returns does he give the slave authority over all his belongings--and they're saying that the master has to return TWICE, not once. So the JWs are looking forward to the THIRD coming of Christ, apparently, since he already came a second time and appointed the faithful slave in 1919.

    I have no choice but to throw in a double entendre, because this is just too rich. Isn't that right, Mary Magdalene? Jesus comes three times. That's what she said.

    Anyway, it definitely boots all non-GB members from having any kind of authority. The irony is, without doing anything different from the average rank-and-file JW, somehow these other 'anointed' will inherit the same reward as the 'faithful slave' does. So we'd have what, maybe 50 people out of 144,000 who have some measure of rulership experience? If anything, this actually recommends the other people, the non-GB anointed, who didn't feel entitled to demand absolute obedience from their fellow brothers down to even shaving regularly, as being better kings than those who already starting ruling while they were on the Governing Body.

    Guess I've got a lot of company--the rest of the anointed just officially became door mats!! HA!

    --sd-7

  • jehu or jehonadab
    jehu or jehonadab

    Did anyone catch David Splane saying we love this TEACHING we love this NEW IDEA!!

    Did anyone else catch this?

    So its not from Jehovah nor is it new Brighter light, its juat a Idea?

  • unstopableravens
    unstopableravens

    this cult sucks i cant wait to get out! sorry this may be off topic but really i cant believe i use to buy this garbage and sell it to others. it very deprresssssssssiiiiinng

  • Unbrainwashed publisher1
    Unbrainwashed publisher1

    So Jesus Christ who has full control of all the congregations did not know until now the true identity of the faithful and discreet slave? LOL LMAO its 2012 you gotta be kidding me! Armageddon is right around the corner and he doesn't understand until now who he put over his domestics? And how do they have audacity to take this responsibilityfrom first century apostles who actually walked with Christ?

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