Thank you so much for letting me know that I am NOT ALONE! I raised FOUR sons, and my last child, the baby, the only daughter, is now 14. I just read my own journal in your words. Universally, kids today have some genetic defect or something in that they expect immediate gratification for everything. Now, is that our fault? Hmmmm....looking back, if I were to be totally honest; probably. Our jw upbringings sucked so much we worked overtime (literally) to insure no such denials and abuse for our own children. However, I see that tendancy in kids that never had ex-jw parents at all. My generation (I am 47) had much more responsibility in general, much more maturity, with or without the confines of a religion full of fearful rules. We raised horses, which needed care for before our own breakfast, our rooms needed to be immaculate, did our own laundry, helped with shopping and the dreaded chore of putting a weeks worth of groceries away (I still hate that part!), we set the table, washed the dishes AND DRIED THEM (what the?!?!), WALKED everywhere, (what the hell DID my own mother do with her time???!!!), got jobs when we were removed from high-school, blah, blah, blah.....I do believe that even if we DID coddle those boys that there comes a point in every young person's life wherein they are responsible for their attitudes, views, and behavior. No matter WHAT you did yesterday, it is vital to a man's perception of women, that they understand you have every right to decide that that course no longer works for you, and that you are not doing it anymore! Good luck with your readjustment project!