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  Why our beliefs are true...

  by Dogpatch in

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  from gary busselman:.

  a quote from skeptical inmquirer.

  "finally, beliefs survive best when their adherents feel they are part of a cohesive community; an ideologue who gives his followers a sense of belonging has already won the battle against skeptics who seek to disconfirm his teachings.

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  JW attitudes on women - why beneficial

  by tergiversator in

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  2. beliefs

  my secret wish, when i was about 10 years old and we were going through the revelation book for the second time, was that one day we would show up at the book study and all the baptized brothers would be missing and they would let me read.

  i was pretty sure that i wouldn't mangle words like thyatira and laodicea nearly as badly as some of the poor brothers they roped into reading at times, who looked like they were being tortured during particularly difficult lessons.. i liked to read, i thought.

  my older brother got to read a lot, even when he wasn't baptized.

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  Volunteering at a house of evil

  by tergiversator in

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  i did something new today.

  my college arranged for several different volunteer projects in the area that you could sign up for, from trail clean-up to working at a homeless shelter to visiting elderly people.

  through the vagaries of fate, i ended up on one that visited a small clothing and food pantry operated by the area churches' ecumenical council.. so there i was, sorting packages of donated socks by children's sizes, not ten feet from where there were *religious* pamphlets (one of them mentioned god once, i think) in a small, discreet display, on such false religious topics such as how to deal with the violent death of a loved one.

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  Door To Door? Not At Heathrow!

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all this talk about whether door to door work is fruitful or not has really got me thinking.. so i was wondering, (a) how many jw's or ex's here were actually converted on the door, and (b) how many jw's or ex's here ever obtained a convert on the door?.

  i made 2 converts whilst a jw, but 1 was the son of an interested person, the other was a wayward son of a weak sister so i get a zero.. my dad worked at london heathrow as an air traffic controller, he got 6 other controllers to join up, so if you're arriving in the uk, don't fly apostasy airways!

  for all his frequent bouts of vac pioneering, i don't think that he ever pulled a live one off the doors, so he gets a zero too.. my mum was quite a puller in her time but they were all friends of friends who came to sit in on bible studies etc, so, sorry mater, you get a zero also.. as a matter of fact, i'm wondering if the door to door work isn't completely pointless!.

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  I'm a newbie too

  by Flowerpetal in

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  i just registered just today.

  i am not a dissenter from jws--still an active member but i have an open mind and willing to listen to all who post here.

  there have been some questions bugging me lately that have caused me to wonder about certain scriptures pertaining to being "born again.

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  Paragraph 23 question b

  by joelbear in

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  how many of you ever counted the number of each letter in a watchtower article to see which letter was used most?.

  hugs.

  joel the eccentric statistician.

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  How long was it for you?

  by expatbrit in

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  2. friends

  i'm curious: how many years were you in before you left?

  by left, i mean either df'd and decided not to go back, or da'd, or faded, or even just realized it was a crock but stuck around anyway for family reasons?.

  we're told in la-la-land that it's the newly baptized, those who are "spiritually immature" that mostly leave.

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  Photos at churches

  by Undecided in

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  back in the sixties i was into photography.

  i took pictures at several weddings.

  some were in churches.

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  Elders' Gems of Wisdom

  by stephenw20 in

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  my dad asked the co about this one.

  mat 27:52-53. and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, .

  and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

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  So What Tipped You Out, Then?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
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  can you remember that distinct moment in your life when you suddenly knew that your time as a jw was truly over?.

  for me, that moment came several years after the removal of my privileges in the congregation when i admitted to having known my then fiance in a way that was not fitting for a ministerial servant.. i was quickly stripped of my 2 servants jobs, group study conducting, pioneer status, public talk giving and praying in the kh.

  i was also forbidden to ever be alone with the lady concerned.. about 15 months later i was assigned a public talk, after 30 minutes i dried up.

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