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  First Post Musings

  by Perry in

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  this is my first post and i must say that i have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content.

  back in college i visited the old h2o site many times and this is definitely superior.

  thanks to all for the rich content i've been enjoying.. my great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation.

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  Thank you OutnFree ! Good luck.

  Six.....SouthWest Texas State University
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  Our 1st Tree

  by Mulan in

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  i bought a tiny christmas tree today.

  it's of rosemary, and smells heavenly.

  i bought some small ornaments, and put them on it, and when my husband came home today, i surprised him with it.

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  Congratulations,

  I put my first one up today too...its beautiful. Enjoy

  Perry
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  First Post Musings

  by Perry in

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  this is my first post and i must say that i have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content.

  back in college i visited the old h2o site many times and this is definitely superior.

  thanks to all for the rich content i've been enjoying.. my great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation.

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  Yes, it was conscious. I literally couldn't wait to get into college and learn some new things. I saw the utter failure of the WTBS world view and was intellectually supercharged to get a new one. Unfortunately my alma mater was extremely liberal and slowed the process a bit. Maybe that was a good thing though who knows? What about you?

  What was your catalyst and time frame?

  Perry
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  First Post Musings

  by Perry in

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  this is my first post and i must say that i have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content.

  back in college i visited the old h2o site many times and this is definitely superior.

  thanks to all for the rich content i've been enjoying.. my great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation.

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  If you mean when I invented my own truth....that hasn't happened. If you mean when I started my own search for truth, that was in 1995.
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  First Post Musings

  by Perry in

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  this is my first post and i must say that i have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content.

  back in college i visited the old h2o site many times and this is definitely superior.

  thanks to all for the rich content i've been enjoying.. my great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation.

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  Ummmm, I was 23. That was in 1986
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  Will this hurt?

  by PollyAnnaBanana in

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  just wanted to see if this works!

  gotta hide out -- right now the judicial committee is after me!

  and everybody i know and love is a witness.

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  Enjoyed your post Polly. Just remember that you still need to be true to yourself whether or not the elders are in your life. All those articles about people getting on drugs, getting diseases, and getting killed because they stopped going to meetings can only happen if you trade one set of controlling people for another. You know who you are and what your standards are. Never leave them whether you go to meetings or not. Make wise choices, good luck and please don't fall for the false predictions by making unwise decisions.

  Perry
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  First Post Musings

  by Perry in

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  this is my first post and i must say that i have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content.

  back in college i visited the old h2o site many times and this is definitely superior.

  thanks to all for the rich content i've been enjoying.. my great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation.

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  Thanks LPH and Six of Nine.

  Six,

  Are you still associated?

  Perry
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  First Post Musings

  by Perry in

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  this is my first post and i must say that i have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content.

  back in college i visited the old h2o site many times and this is definitely superior.

  thanks to all for the rich content i've been enjoying.. my great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation.

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  Thanks Path,

  I think that is what makes a lot of people feel crazy. The WTBS claims to value and teach reasoning and truth. There inlies the paradox. Their views on how that works and what can and cannot be considered, effectively hijacks both the definition and its functions; essentially slaying the very terms that gave it birth.

  How does one fight smoke and mirrors? Simple....you can't. Much better to "pay attention to the more important things".

  Perry
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  First Post Musings

  by Perry in

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  this is my first post and i must say that i have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content.

  back in college i visited the old h2o site many times and this is definitely superior.

  thanks to all for the rich content i've been enjoying.. my great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation.

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  Thanks More2C,

  I am looking forward to making some friends on here. The closest friend I have had a Seventh Day Adventist upbringing. He can relate a little. My other friends simply can't connect on this level even though they try too. It still astonishes me how the world view we were taught is so different than most people. Things they take for granted I'm just now beginning to appreciate.

  Thanks for replying.

  Perry
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  First Post Musings

  by Perry in

  1. jw
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  this is my first post and i must say that i have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content.

  back in college i visited the old h2o site many times and this is definitely superior.

  thanks to all for the rich content i've been enjoying.. my great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation.

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  Perry

  Hello All,

  This is my first post and I must say that I have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content. Back in college I visited the old H2O site many times and this is definitely superior. Thanks to all for the rich content I've been enjoying.

  My great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation. I literally have hundreds of relatives that are witnesses on both sides of my family. I stopped going to meetings after a series of very troublng circumstances and was prompted to pursue a degree in sociology at age 32 to help me to better come to terms with conditions that being raised as a witness involves. My final consensus? The witness life is too hostile an environment to live. Oh, I have tons of horror stories....more than many might care to hear. But the bottom line is that I have watched many people be robbed of their families and grow up without the slightest clue of how true love acts. I have watched how that ignorance has exacted a heavy price from people. Although lonely for family connections, I now have many friends that I can count on to be there....and I for them.

  I drifted away and finally told my parents that I was attending a non-denominational church one year ago. I am not invited to any family gatherings although I receive an occasional call from my parents from time to time. Both my brothers are elders and I havent heard from them since. One particular sister-in-law, whom I had great affection for wouldn't even touch me when saying goodbye. (No hugs for doubters) They came to visit and to find out if the rumor was true I told my Dad.

  Mom was in tears when I told them and Dad still keeps trying to re-convert me from time to time. I've learned that extremism cannot be counted with logic, so I don't even try to reason. I do not allow the abuse anymore though. I don't want to hear it. Naturally he thinks he is loving me by continuing the thumping. I wish I could tell him how much I love him and know that he would understand it without filtering it through the complicated doctrinal matrix. Even when I was regular pioneering Dad would sit in a chair in the center of the room across from me, interrogation style, and read me scriptures for more than two hours. I could tell he really got off on it. He was probably the biggest reason I left. His favorite scripture is the one about the people in Armageddon being strewn across the surface of the earth like manure. He must have read that one dozens of times to me since I was a kid.

  Even after all the education and a few years with water under the bridge, I still feel the monumental loss associated with this (yes, I'll say it) destructive cult. I've decided to list a few of the consequences from this upbringing that I've had to deal with. Both positive and negative.

  First the Negative:

  1. A profound perversion of the nature of God. The angry God who can never be satisfied.

  2. A perverted sense of the nature of love.

  3. Personal relationships viewed in terms of black and white rather than give and take.

  4. A distrust and borderline rebellion attitude toward my national government. I viewed them as the enemy rather than an institution God has seen fit to allow and command us to support in lieu of his kingdom.

  5. Mental domination and asbuse tolerated even though you know that something is terribly wrong.

  6. I missed the love of my life because she wasn't baptised. She was a musical, mathimatical and poetic genius who loved to work with retarded kids. She played the cello with Yanni once. One time I watched her solve a math problem on a black board 2 feet by 3 feet in length while holding a mentalled challenged youngster on her hip who was throwing up...all this while she was telling me a joke. Did I forget to mention she was a 5'10" drop dead gorgeous knock-out too? The emotional stress of contemplating marrying a man in a religion that looked forward to the destruction of 99.9% of the world's population was too much and she broke. It was impossible for me to love her as a person with my WTBS blinders on. She is now happily married with three children. I am so proud of her. Leslie, if you are out there...I'll always love you.

  Now the positive:

  About the only thing I can think of is a good work ethic. All that rejection from door to door trained me to eat rejection and adversity for lunch so to speak. I have never had trouble starting and running a business. Money has never been a problem. This may sound offensive to some but I learned most of my marketing sense from the way the publications are written. Even as a youngster I could pick out the patterns in the writing style to capture the imagination, sound authoratative, and package an idea.

  I have made many mistakes in my life and do not try to shift the entire burden to the WTBS. Ultimately I am responsible.

  I am responsible for telling the man with a terminal disease at a door how wrong christmas was and watching him melt.

  I am responsible for argueing with a perfectly nice christian lady at another door, searching in vain to find a substantial doctrinal difference to destroy her faith and that which she was trying hard to instill in her children.

  I am responsible for supporting the illusion that some day we'll be living in those nice houses as spoils of war rather than working for them.

  I am responsible for using religion as a cover and catalyst for the deep anger I have felt a large part of my life. I don't feel much anger anymore, thank God.

  I am responsible for the hurt I have caused others in many other ways due to my ignorance in how true love works and acts. I deeply regret hurting others and pray for their well being.

  Well, I didn't know that I had so much to write. I hope throwing my thoughts in will in some way help another person. If anyone has had a similar experience I'd be happy to read it.

  Thanks ,

  Perry