I have 2 no tresspassing signs 10 feet before you get to my door ... AND a private property sign there as well PLUS a noo soliciting on my door and yet they STILL come to my door.... OH and did you see how the congregation stood up for it's preachers out there???? It said it's VOLUNTARY!!!! HAHHAHAHA! If I was in a congregation still, I would print that off & carry it with me to all of the get togethers & share it with everyone.... see... you don't HAVE to go door to door! strictly volunteers! unbelievable!
EverSoGrateful
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TRESPASSING
by blondie inwoman wins trespassing judgment against jehovah's witness.
miscellaneous news.
source: foxnews.
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Did you Exit the Witnesses Gradually - Or Exit Suddenly - Your Reasons ?
by flipper ini thought it would be good to discuss it to understand what caused some of us to exit suddenly, or some to exit gradually .. myself , i had been in 44 years , had mentally had doubts for years before exiting - but injustices by the elders and my doubts about the " generation " doctrine led me to exit suddenly one night before a meeting.
the elders pissed me off , i went to my seat, picked my books up and walked out - never going back.
so what is your story and reasons ?
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EverSoGrateful
Growing up, we had an Aunt & her daughter that were wittnesses. Her daughter (my cousin) was 1 yr older than me. My cousin was the same age as one of my sisters. Thru the years my cousin would try to get us interested in the watchtower. Eventually when my sis got married in 1978 ...they knocked on her door & it was a quick conversion. She is still in today. She studied with me around 1985 and eventually I joined & got dunked in 1992. My sis & cousin were very pleased. My cousin however married an unbeliever & wound up having kids & a really screwed up marriage. Most of which could be contributed to the organization now as I look back. (It has screwed up so many lives) ...anyway.... about 4 yrs ago my cousin (who was like a sister to me & my other sis.... fell ill. She was in the hospital with pheumonia & and fell during the night on her way to the bathroom in the hospital room. Freak acciden.... she fell on a chair & cut off her air... was dead when they found her ... they revived her & put her on life support... I get the call the next day from one of her kids.... he tells me she is going to die please come.... So.... I drop everything...she is 100 miles away... I am on the way..... to be by my cousins side....please God... don't let her die..... I get htere in the hospital...OMG... a machine is breathing for her.... I am so scared for her.... I call my husband ( my sweet loving non wittness husband & am crying) he drops everthing & drives 100 miles to be with me & my cousin & all of her family & friends .... mostly non wittness friends...(she had started to miss meetings & fade) anyway...... there were a few wittnesses there outside the hospital room...placing their "what happens when you die brochures" bastards.... anyway.... my hubby gets there...he comes in & we are standing by my cousin with her moma standing next to her & I start singing a song we used to sing.... and suddenly tears are coming from my cousins eyes...although she is still in a coma. The nurse immediately comes in & says we are getting her heart rate up too much that we would have to leave the room...actuall we were reaching her ...she knew we were there.....so I am thinking to myself...where is my other sister...why hasn't she shown up...so I call her...and the first thing she says about my cousin lying there dying is " Was she attending meetings on a regular basis?" WHAT??????????? WHAT???????? My cousin is lying here dying & all you want to know is if she has been regular at meetings???? WHAT?????????? I hung up... and the next day we all stood around my cousin ( all of us crying uncontrollably... my husband included ) as they took all of the machines off of her & watched as she breathed her last breadth. THAT was when I knew that the wittness religion was a cold cold place to be & I wanted no more of it. I know my cousin is in heaven now & she has visited me once (in a dream) since she passed. I will never ever step foot in another Kingdom Hall again...ever! God bless this sight for helping all of us thru such difficult times.... I love you all.... and I remain...ever so thankful that I am out..... my other sister is still in & I am hopeful that someday I will see her leave.... but until then....I remain on the outside without her.....
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I spoke to Ray Franz for the first time today
by recovering ini have been feeling very blue and hopeless lately.
i miss my family and needed some affirmation that i am right in my characterization of the jws.
i called ray to hear it from the someone in the know, as to what really goes on in the gb meetings and if they really believe what they say.
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EverSoGrateful
I think all of us know that feeling that you sometimes get after you leave. It can be heartbreaking at times to be away from your family & friends. But try to look at it this way my friend... they are in because they haven't seen their way out. Something has not clicked to get their attention... in order for them to research. You, on the other hand were able to see thru all of the smoke & mirrors. Once you see the real truth of what is going on in the group, then things start to make sense & really.... you should pray for those unfortunate souls who are stuck in there for the time being. Maybe someday they will see the light, but for now they are incapable... as you and I once were..... you have many many friends here.... and all around you. Please stay with us... we need you! love & many huggs...... your new friend.....
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What can I say to JW's about Michael Jackson's life and death?
by BonaFide inas an active witness, i am still in association with witnesses in field service, meetings, and occasionally at get-togethers.
we usually go to eat at a restaurant after the sunday meeting.. so tomorrow i am sure we will be talking about michael jackson.
i live in southern california, and i know one sister in our usual group has met mj's mother, and is very supportive of her.
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Losing a child must be one of the hardest things in the world to bear. I am sorry for MJ's mom that she has to bury a son. MJ's life was spinning out of control. To his mom, MJ was a good son, accused of doing some horrible things. But in MJ's mind, he knew what he had done, and I believe it was killing him slowly... he needed to get help about his pedofilia, (plain & simple). It would have been admission of guilt to do so. MJ was hiding behind his troubles, and no one around him had the courage to man up & get him to get help. He had yes men around him that knew what was going on, but they were collecting paychecks so...mums the word. MJ is at peace now, no more running, no more hiding, and he will seek forgiveness for his sins, as the rest of us will do when our time comes. There is no need to idolize him. He was a man that made some horrible decisions that cast a dark side on his life .... Pedofiles should not be running the streets around children freely, or having them in their homes unsupervised. Why was MJ able to have this when he clearly was a pedofile? Parents would allow their children to go over to his house. That's like sending a rabbit to the wolf. So, eventually, MJ's mom needs to stop and look and realize that a pedofile is off of the streets now....and yes it was her son , but face the truth & reality and make the best of life now. No need to blame others. MJ made his own bad decisions. People around him just helped those decisions come true. People pleasers....yes men....had he admitted his pedofilia, he would possibly be alive today, either in prison or as a free man. But he didn't choose that. He chose denial.... and to hide... bad choices...
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Hi I hope i am welcome
by cantleave inhi guys and gals,.
i am a hypocryte.
brought up in the "truth" but know its not.
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cantleave....
do some research on pedofiles in the JW organization. Last Year they paid out somewhere around 11 million ???/ on pending cases against brothers in the borg...they settled out of court on them......becaus they do NOT want this kind of thing in the news! Bad publicity..... BUT...you could use it as a tool to help your immediate family see that there are things being hidded in the org. Why not bring up pedofilia to the wife & say I've heard people saying this & that about it... so I did some research & low and behold...this is what I find..... get her interest up.... just think.... you could have a pedofile in your cong & no elders would ever disclose it....read up on it..... you will be SHOCKED at what you find out! research!!!!
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Has being a JW effected your ability to make or keep friends?
by PEC inmichael jackson has been quoted as having no friends.
some here would like to blame his jw upbringing.. being a exjw, do you have trouble making and/or keeping friends?.
philip.
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lurk3r is SPOT ON!
It's very difficult to create TRUE friendships & nurture them after the borg.... but it's something that you learn to do....to really enjoy the company of someone because of who they are & what they like to do etc..... I never understood how you are friends with someone in the borg...just because you are in the borg! There are some IN THE BORG, that I would NOT choose as a friend on the outside..... it's just another eye opening learning experience! I remain... verSoGrateful tht I am no longer in the borg!!!!!!!!!!!! woo hoo!!!!... what a gift!
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Michael Jackson having memorial service at L.A. Assembly Hall!!!
by oompa inhahah.......wouldn't that be a funny headline.....and its not even april 1.....oomps.
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EverSoGrateful
Let's see... will his MOM attend a funeral service that is NOT by the JW's????? I know when I was in....that was a NO NO !!!!!! Watch & see!!!!! see if she will bend the rules...and let the brainwashing begin if she gets custody...poor kids don't have a fighting chance....
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Hi I hope i am welcome
by cantleave inhi guys and gals,.
i am a hypocryte.
brought up in the "truth" but know its not.
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Hello Cantleave!
As RedGreen says.... we're all in this together! I faded out and have lost contact with a few family members...but I could no longer live the lie... Recently when I told a family member that we are very blessed (my hubby & I ) .... that family member about passed out & said NO... you can't be if you are not attending meetings & going out in service.... SO... I guess in their eyes... satan is blessing me....Whatever they wanna think! All I know is I am alot happier now & don't have the guilt that I used to carry around for every single thing I did....MAN! ..when you realize the control that you have been under...it's amazing to start the recovery! It's like life just started all over & I can see clearly now! I no longer serve a multi-billion dollar publishing company & I am proud of it! Good luck, take it slow & pray for the REAL answers!!!!!! I am...ever-so-grateful that I got them!!!! Welcome aboard!
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A religion with nothing to Celebrate
by eyeslice inhow sad that the witnesses have nothing to celebrate.
the more i think about it since i stopped going to the meetings, the more i feel that spirituality and religion are about opportunities to give thanks and to celebrate life with family and friends.
christenings or name giving ceremonies celebrate the gift of a new life to a family.
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I used to belong to a congregation in colorado .... and they ALWAYS had something to celebrate.....
a wedding ....have booze....
an anniversary...have booze....
before halloween they would have a costume party....everyone dress in a costume & get together for a P A R T Y !
would get the kids together and get a big cake for them , music, cake, dance, (sounds like a birthday party) but it's NOT !
I am sooo glad that I am out. I miss my family that's in, but I realize that it is a cult, and it did a lot of damage to me & my relationships thru out the years....NOTHING that I can repair...but I just do my best to show how sorry I am for the things I did....
like refusing to share in family get togethers...holidays...etc...WOW..... what an eye opener once you are OUT & learn the TRUTH about them! But, I feel sorry for the ones still in, because we all know that they feel it's the right thing to do. I pray that they will someday see that it is not the right course.... so I remain....... EverSoGrateful.....
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A religion with nothing to Celebrate
by eyeslice inhow sad that the witnesses have nothing to celebrate.
the more i think about it since i stopped going to the meetings, the more i feel that spirituality and religion are about opportunities to give thanks and to celebrate life with family and friends.
christenings or name giving ceremonies celebrate the gift of a new life to a family.
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EverSoGrateful
I used to belong to a congregation in colorado .... and they ALWAYS had something to celebrate.....
a wedding ....have booze....
an anniversary...have booze....
before halloween they would have a costume party....everyone dress in a costume & get together for a P A R T Y !
would get the kids together and get a big cake for them , music, cake, dance, (sounds lisome ke a birthday party) but it's NOT !
I am sooo glad that I am out. I miss my family that's in, but I realize that it is a cult, and it did alot of damage to me & my relationships thru out the years....NOTHING that I can repair...but I just do my best to show how sorry I am for the things I did....
like refusing to share in family get togethers...holidays...etc...WOW..... what an eye opener once you are OUT & learn the TRUTH about them! But, I feel sorry for the ones still in, because we all know that they feel it's the right thing to do. I pray that they will someday see that it is not the right course.... so I remain....... EverSoGrateful.....