It only took you two sentences to fix the entire JW religion. I'd say you should have a go at bringing about world peace.
Ilovebirthdays
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They Only Wanted to Play Pokemon Go
by Ilovebirthdays inmy kids have got me hooked on pokemon go.
when i turned it on in my house, it said some sort of bat-thingy i didn't have was the closest pokemon.
so i left the house rather quickly, rounded the corner, and came face to face with two jw sisters in their early 20's or so.
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They Only Wanted to Play Pokemon Go
by Ilovebirthdays inmy kids have got me hooked on pokemon go.
when i turned it on in my house, it said some sort of bat-thingy i didn't have was the closest pokemon.
so i left the house rather quickly, rounded the corner, and came face to face with two jw sisters in their early 20's or so.
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Ilovebirthdays
My kids have got me hooked on Pokemon Go. When I turned it on in my house, it said some sort of bat-thingy I didn't have was the closest Pokemon. So I left the house rather quickly, rounded the corner, and came face to face with two JW sisters in their early 20's or so. They said hi, and I gave them my biggest smile and told them I was looking for a bat-thingy. They asked if I was playing Pokemon Go, and I told them yes. They wanted to learn more about it, so they followed me around and watched me catch something that wasn't a bat-thingy. I headed in a different direction, and they said they had to go, and all they said was good bye and went back to sit in their car. I went around the neighborhood, and found my bat-thingy, and when I came back to the area of my house half an hour later, they were gone. My husband in our garage the entire time, and they didn't come talk to him at all (We live on the corner, so ours would have been the first house they came to.) They just wanted to play Pokemon Go. I wonder if they counted their time?
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Reports of lower memorial attendance
by thedepressedsoul ini have heard a lot of reports from kingdom halls in the area that there was less than last year, for both time slots.. we had the first time slot and we were down 50+/- compared to last year.
last year we had the lobby full of people standing and this year we had empty seats and no one standing.
we ran out of parking last year and this year we made it.. like i said i am hearing quite a few reports of this from halls in our area.however, somehow the number seem to inch up every year.
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Ilovebirthdays
This was the least effort of a tract campaign I've seen yet. My daughter opened the door (I was sitting 2 feet away but couldn't be seen by anyone at the door) because she thought it would be her friend coming over, and someone handed her a tract and told her to give it to her parents. She asked them why, and they just said "just give it to your parents" and walked away. She closed the door, took a step back so I could see her, shrugged her shoulders and took it straight to the recycling bin. -
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Sign this petition - Investigation On Jehovahs Witnesses Religious Policy That Violates Human Rights and Abuses Religious Freedom
by TJ Curioso inlaunch an investigation on jehovahs witnesses religious policy that violates human rights and abuses religious freedom.
link.
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Ilovebirthdays
I saw this posted on Brenda Lee's wall. There were several posters that stated that as much as the JW's have hurt them personally, they either don't want to sign a petition that (very realistically) won't have any effect on anything due to freedom of religion laws and/or as much as they disagree with JW beliefs they don't want the government to infringe any further on our basic rights. She called those posters out by name, and then reposted the petition saying there would be no comments about it, and any comments would be deleted. Which seems to be the case with what few things AAWA related I've seen where anyone posts a less than positive view about it. This only serves in my mind to make me think that they could have a pretty good thing going with their organization, but they don't necessarily put their energies into making the best decisions, and their continued attempts to supress any debate or other way of thinking whatsoever don't make them much different than the organization they are trying to bring down.
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Would The Witnesses Be Happy To See You Come Back to The Kingdom Hall?
by minimus inwould you get a huge response if you ever went back to the hall?.
would nobody care?
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Ilovebirthdays
Yes they would, because it would no longer be required of them to immediately look away and stare at the ground every time they saw me.
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Who/what is more responsible for you becoming a JW?
by minimus inis it family, friends, idealism???
what????.
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Ilovebirthdays
My great-great-great grandparents. They aren't my favorite people, whoever they were.
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A new DVD for 2013: The Return of the Prodigal Son
by Oubliette inin another thread, what's new for 2013 - lo nuevo de 2013, jwn member, oppostate, posted news of dc releases at this year's district conventions.
among the releases was this: .
a new dvd for 2013: the return of the prodigal son.
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Ilovebirthdays
The first thing I thought when I saw this thread title was that they're putting this out to try to give hope to the many that have children that have long left. False hope, indeed.
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What Kind of "Door Knocker" or "Bell Ringer" Were You?
by LoisLane looking for Superman ini preferred ringing the house holders door bell.
if i couldn't hear it.
i'd do it again, just in case.
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Ilovebirthdays
I was a pioneer who is fully acquainted with the "pioneer stroll", since that was the pace I prefered, and I also perfected the art of looking like I rang the doorbell when I really didn't. I never liked working with the new pioneers, since they were far more zealous than I.
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Constructive feedback for AAWA leadership (IMHO)
by besty in1 - reconsider your existence - there might be a reason why the most effective resources to date have been solo efforts.
2 - recognize that even well-intentioned organizations will firstly seek self-preservation.
3 - be aware that egos and emotional stupidity have torn apart much grander edifices than aawa.
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Ilovebirthdays
I was thinking about this, and it led me to wonder what is the uniting factor that we're all here on this board, and the only uniting factor I could come up with is the fact that we're all here on this board. We're made up of ex-JWs of many different lengths, JWs in various stages of fading, never-been JWs, JW apologists and who knows what else. Some of us are here because we need help or advice, some are here to give advice, some are random interlopers, and some are here to promote pro-JW beliefs. This site works, and has been around for such a relatively long amount of time, because it doesn't matter who you are or why you're here, its fine that you're here, and there isn't a "if you're not with me, you're against me" attitude and you don't have to follow the general consensus to stay.
Has there ever been (and I'm genuinely curious, since I'm not regularly here) a group that has caused so much division and infighting in such a short period of time on this board? I don't think name-calling and infighting from the get go shows that this group is off to a very good start. I know that Six Screens guy caused a lot of trouble, but that was over a period of time, and he is a lone entity. There are going to be disagreements and clashes of personalities on here. That's human nature, but getting a bunch of ex-JWs arguing against each other goes squarely against any group that claims to be Anti-Watchtower, I would think. Seriously, please re-think the name and the tone. If there were a group to pop up called AAAWA (Association of Anti-Anti-Watchtower Activists), how effective do you think that they would be here?
I think what people have to remember is that you're not just fighting a religion, you're fighting a multi-billion dollar corporation. People do that all the time, and there are many groups out there that have been around longer and have much more manpower, and they haven't done much. (Ever heard of Millions against Monsanto or the Nestle boycott? Your average person probably hasn't, and these corporations are still around, and while they may have been hurt on a small level, they're still thriving.) If you want to try to be the David to take down Goliath, go ahead, and good luck, I'm on your side. I'm just not going to put my time and energy and $$ into an effort for that, as the WT already claimed the 1st 25 years of my life, and, for me, I can't fight against them too long, or I get bitter and lose the good place I've managed to find for myself. I may not be blatant, but I do what I can. What I can do is, when appropriate, tell my story and the story of others who have been shunned to people I know when it is the right time to do so. Have I accomplished much? No, all I've done, that I know of, is get someone to stop taking the magazines from a JW because she was to polite to say no (I highly doubt I saved her from becoming one), and when they came this year on their Memorial blitz, they didn't get a very friendly reception from quite a few houses in the neighborhood. It may not be much, but it is what I can do to keep a healthy balance in my life.
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Constructive feedback for AAWA leadership (IMHO)
by besty in1 - reconsider your existence - there might be a reason why the most effective resources to date have been solo efforts.
2 - recognize that even well-intentioned organizations will firstly seek self-preservation.
3 - be aware that egos and emotional stupidity have torn apart much grander edifices than aawa.
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Ilovebirthdays
And that's exactly my problem. I'm not the only one that is complaining (I haven't even been on an ex-JW forum for months, it was the AAWA thing that even made me rembember to come here) and yet there has been nothing but radio silence from those in charge. Come up with some sort of statement to acknowledge the problem, be it "We're sorry" (and notice not "We're sorry, but here's why it's no big deal") or "Screw you and eff off". Silence indicates nothing but apathy toward the situation.
And I don't want people to count me as part of the "JWN peanut gallery", I'm hardly even a poster here. Even if I had no JW family on my FB page, this is a group I would not have wanted to be a part of, anyway. I'm with those that think the name and the in-your-face style are far to offputting for this group to be of any good, and get through to any JW wanting to leave, or leave a good impression on those that don't know anything about JWs or the problems that come with being an ex-JW. I watched the AAWA video that was on You Tube, and, aside from the name, thought the tone of the message was actually quite professional and inviting, but looking at the whole response to the idea to re-think the name, and the entire tone of everything that has come to pass after the video makes me think that the video was just a fluke.