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Does Jesus being the "Son of God" mean that he is not God by nature ?
by hooberus in
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in bible times the phrase "the son of god" was understood as a claim to the nature of god, not a claim to be a lesser being:.

" john 19:7. .

ron rhodes commments:.
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Is Jesus inferior because it says that He will "be subject" in 1 Cor 15:28?
by hooberus in
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"and when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that god may be all in all.

" 1 corinthians 15:28. .

the watchower implies that since jesus is said to be "subject" unto "him that put all things under him" that therefore jesus is inferior to god, and the trinity is thus not true.
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Is Jesus inferior because he is called a servant ?
by hooberus in
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"the followers of jesus always viewed him as a submissive servant of god, not as god's equal.

they prayed to god about "thy holy servant jesus, whom thou didst anoint, .

and signs and wonders are performed through the name of thy holy servant jesus.
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Is Jesus inferior because He was "sent" by the Father?
by hooberus in
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the watchtower implies that since jesus was "sent" by the father that therefore he must be inferior to the father: .

"is not the sender superior to the one sent?

" should you believe in the trinity.
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"my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity
by hooberus in
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"ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

" john 14:28 .
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The Governing Body and the Board of Directors
by hooberus in
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the governing body and the board of directors

modern society claims

"from the incorporation of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania in 1884 until 1972, the president of the society exercised great authority in jehovah's organization, while the governing body was closely associated with the society's board of directors.
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Heb. 1:6 (even in the NWT !) shows Jesus not to be an angel, but Jehovah
by hooberus in
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for the sake of argument lets assume that the current nwt is correct in rendering proskuneo as "obesiance" .

"but when he again brings his firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: 'and let all god's angels do obeisance to him" hebrews 1:6 the new world translation.. 1. if all (as in 100%) of the angels of god do obeisance to him, then he could not be an angel.

all (as in 100%) must include michael.
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Is the man Jesus Christ also the LORD?
by hooberus in
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on several earlier threads i posted scriptures showing that jesus christ is now a man, and is not an angel:

o give thanks to the lord of lords: for his mercy endureth for ever.

(note: this must be the lord alone see isaiah 44:24)
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Do all informed JW's deny the man Christ Jesus as their mediator?
by hooberus in
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2. beliefs
many here are familiar with the current watchtower doctrine that jesus is the mediator for only the 144,000. .

members of the great crowd who know and believe wt doctrine on this subject will deny that jesus christ is their mediator.

those of the remant who know and believe wt doctrine on this subject will claim to have jesus christ as their mediator, but will deny that the mediator is a man.. however, the bible says that the mediator is .
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Revelation 22:12 refers to Jesus! (says a recent WT !)
by hooberus in
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a recent wt (i believe the december 1, or 15, 2003 wt).

has revelation 22:12 referring to jesus christ !

i will give the reference shortly.. .