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My favorite JT thread. Newbies a must read!
by BeautifulGarbage ini hope jt doesn't mind me doing this.
i had to take my daughter to loma linda u yesterday for her yearly blood work and check-up.
all went well, btw.
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Watchtower Dishonesty
by caspian inanother fine example of the watch tower dishonestly quoting and taking out of context what people believe and say.. this fine example was emailed to me by a good friend an ex district overseer in the usa.
let me offer a good example of the use of selective quotations.
for many, many years the society has quoted famed british astronomer sir fred hoyle out of context.
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Angelic protection-how does that work again?
by PopeOfEruke inwe read of recent events, 5 jw children killed in a car accident, jw's caught and beheaded and be-tongued (and not necessarily in that order) in the phillipines, a busload of witnesses burnt to death in spain on the way to the district convention (some years back).
and so on and so on..... yet the wt and bible too tell us "have no fear because jehovah and his myriads of angels are watching over us and will protect us.".
well, they do a pretty crappy job at it!
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Why Is Smoking A Disfellowshipping Offense?
by twain30 inthe main reason given in the 1973 watchtower was that smoking is tied in with spiritism because the greek word which is rendered as spiritism is pharmakia' which literally means "druggery," (see galatians 5:20.
) therefore the argument was made that by smoking we put ourselves under spiritistic or demonic control.
for the last 20 years i haven't heard this reason used.. today the reasons given are that smoking shows no respect for your body as well as for life and that smoking doesn't show love of neighbor.
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Did Franz deliberatly alter the Bible?
by sleepy inits taken as certain by most that the new world translaion is the work of fred franz.. now there are some funny expresions and words he chose to use in that translaion , that most people dont normaly use.but these words and expresions have been turned into catch-phrases by the witnesse, did he choose certain words when others wold have been more accurate in order to do this?
(the expression jehovahs witnesses had already been taken from the bible and used as a "special" phrase).
i wonder more though,did old franz choose these words insead of more common expresions in order to use them to deliberatly make some parts of the bible you woldn't normally link?for example the use of the word time or times in daniel, luke and revelation.is it really the same word that is used in tthe original language or could it be translated a different way, but "times" was used to make the link between them so it would fit in with their ideas on prophecy?are more instances of this in the new world translation?
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I told a MS EVERYTHING today!
by meat pie inthis old chap is quite sweet really, and i wasn't going to say anything much.i studied with him and his daughter and they are neighbours, but there was just us two in my house (!
) and it all came pouring out.i get sick of the 'when are you coming back'...'what else is there'... where else would you go' questions, and i don't even know what started it, it was a bit of a blur, i went on for at least an hour and 'brought out the following points'.
have you had your new blood card yet?
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Sedition in the Californian sun
by freeman inthis week i find myself a few thousand miles from my home on a business trip to california.
i look at it as a paid vacation and a chance for my young son to see what california is like for the first time.
he thinks the girls are hot, and i have to agree.
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Wishing Bill Bowen A Happy Birthday
by Cassiline intoday is bill's birthday.
happy birthday bill.
wishing you a little time to yourself.
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WT says 'Church Fathers were leading teachers'
by youdontknowhim inwas it jehovahs witnesses who acknowledge the church father as leading teachers?
this is a very interesting statement by justin.
do you accept origen as an authority when he said jesus is our god?