Hi,
maybe some of you look for an official and safe link for the connection between the UN and the WTG. I hope this helps: http://ask.un.org/faq/14501
The WTG and UN - official source
by crazy_flickering_light 7 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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crazy_flickering_light
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QuestioningEverything
"In October 2001, the Main Representative of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York to the United Nations, Giro Aulicino, requested termination of its association with DPI. Following this request, the DPI made a decision to disassociate the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York as of 9 October 2001. "
Oh no! The WTBS was disassociated! Full shunning is to take place immediately.
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crazy_flickering_light
QE,
when I read this, I don't see this. Good find.
Next article from Watchtower: "The WTG is shunned by the UN for exposing the truth!"
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ZAPPA-ESQUE
Well I have just passed this on to some "prominent" "eminent" ones in the Borg - so lets see if it provokes some sort of response ! I sent it with my true identity -
Previously I had the official letter dismissed as an Apostate document fraudulently conjured up by some mentally diseased one -
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stillin
The letter is very clear about the purpose of the UN's having NGO's associated with it. It's to garner support for the UN! What part of that did the WTS not understand for 10 years?
Does anybody have the exact issue of the Awake magazine that was so "supportive?" I remember being befuddled about it when it came out. All of the talk about the UN being Satan's tool, then that. It was weird.
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carla
jw's memories are only as long as the latest issue of wt's. Do jw's even remember why this was a big deal? -
Naoscillator
Jwfacts.com has an excellent write up of the whole issue. It could be used as an "outline" when trying to wake up others. Even more than the UN letters, I think the semi-positive coverage in the WT and especially Awake! from the 1990s - early 2000s is pretty damning. There it is, proof that WT was complying or attempting to comply with their member requirements. -
TheWonderofYou
A couple of months ago when I began to check the acutal connection of JW to U.N. I write this story about how everything might have happend on 9th October 2001 and compared it to the situation today. Perhaps it is of interest to you.
A DISGUSTING STORY ABOUT DISGUSTING THINGS
Watchtower Society's spark of fascination for human rights
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When Ciro Aulicino of the Brooklyn's Writing Dept. in his function as main representative of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York weekly visited the U.N. Office for the last time on 9. October 2001 to accept the disassoacition for the society from the United Nations, it was no easy way for him. The U.N. staff had liked him and awaited him to take part in meeting, certainly because they like his humor. He remembered certainly the many years of good cooperation with the U.N. Personnel. He visited the U.N. Building once a week always on Wednesday. So on that day he went the road from the spiritual paradise to the disgusting thing of world the UN Headquarter for the last time. He had no long way though. The U.N. Building was next the JW headquarter and the library as well. He was been advised to accept the disassociation, his colleThose ageus at the Writing Department and the ecclestical Governing Body had taken steps, the grey gentlemen had supervised everything. So he bade farewell with a heavy and crooked head. Certaintly he left the UN-headquarter praying to God, might he except that sacrifice he made, he could not really understand why this project was killed.
After so many years doing research in the U.N. headquarters library and undertaking interviews in order to write really splendid Awake-articles like Awake of Nov.22, 1998 "A long job finished" about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights it was certainly a shocking moment for him on that 9th October, 2001. He must have been one of those JW that really shared the values of the U.N. in their heart, he had a spark of fascination of the truth about what he wrote in Awake, namely that sharing the U.N. values like the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and U.N. ideals are not at all in contradiction to the christian conscience. He supported these values and wrote informative articles but how risky that was! Perhaps he had been even an order to write in such a kind and positive about the U.N. it must have been the leaders of the writing department, some say, if that was the case, they kept.
For the fight for advancement of human rights and for freedom of assemblies cooperation with U.N. Has been after all just and only positive for Jehovah witnesses and very important. With his articles he tried the unimpossible, to influence public and perhaps even to change the mind of Jehovahs witnesses, but the events overturned and his project was stopped. What a big loss of prestige for watchtower and for him.
The Governing Body was embarressed about the events. The trigger for that withdrawal of the U.N. Departement of Public Informations in 2002 was- as most remember anyway - of course the external and internal uproar about the duplicity and hypocrisy of the watchtowers opinion about the U.N. After the article in the british gazette "The guardian".
What followed was silence of the watchtower leaders. The ecclesstical governing body kept silent on this matter towards its members - the Writing Committee Barry, Barr, Klein kept silent, the Service Department Bob Johnson and Ted Jaracz kept silent - as if everybody was disgusted about this event and mourning over this tragic end of a beloved New York connection, that was an ideal and successive one, WT HQ and UN HQ side by side, now both schocked of an earthquake of emotions. The New York central power crumbled a little because of that embarrasing event and spectacle of duplicity. The „non-leaders but guardians of doctrine“ at Bethel were moarning and crumbling silently an to each other, so lately only the Legal department was able to speak at all and take a position against inadmissable digusting accusations of the „Guardian“. „Supposedly the Governing Body became only lately accidently aware of the full newest truth namely that for a recognized association with the U.N. the rules had been newly updated and and would now include the written acceptance of U.N. Basic principles, (something that makes it impossible to have disgusting contact with the U.N)“
Everybody knows publicy how disgusting the stupid behaviour of the ecclestical body was, the responsible JWs, the grey gentlemen, kept silent, they asked the attorneys to settle the matter legal and not spiritual for them.
After the embarrasing loss of prestige at U.N. Headquarters the name „watchtower“ was on the diplomatic parquet no advantage, it disappeared as partner of the „U.N.“, but the laywers and helpers were already busy and looked for other possibilites of cooperation with legal authorities and departments that belong to the U.N. Or work together with it.
The agenda of human rights for religious freedom of Jehovahs witnesses has to be fought somehow and new strategies adapted to new requirements are no shame and had to be elaborated anyway because writing arcticles alone was not a solution strategy anyway. For this diplomatic and legal initiative the Governing body appointed the London bethel with execution of legal basis for a new entity that should fight for human rights in Europe and beyond. Therfore they created in London the new entitiy „EAJW“. A reason was certainly that most important human right cases about violations had to be fought at the Europan Court of Human Rights ECHR. So for the process of bringing forth the agenda of human rights it was no problem to loose the New Yorker contact at all.
The new agenda of human rights for Jehovahs witnesses has become even more engaged and concentrated on certain tasks and brought already astonishing success in many countries, it is far-reaching and effective so to speak, Jehovahs witnesses are now taking part in programmes aiming to implement criteria for religious minorites in states. That is a responsibilty that Ciro Aulicino could only dream of in his time, a responsibilty that goes far beyond writing positive articles, compared to the newest tasks the old task of writing articles is a dram.
Up to now the Jehovahs witness are integrated in the processes of implementation of Human Rights in the following departments of the U.N.
- Office of High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) with the HR Bodies
- the Human Rights Council (HRC) (an intergovermental body, separate entity of OHCHR)
- the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) (a group of human right lawyers that works on an state-driven process under auspices of Human Rights council)
- the Human Rights Committee (CCPR) which makes in the Treaty department CCPRs.
See the actual progress of upcoming human right issues and Jehovahs witnesses contributions as form of stakholder informations, contributions to the reports of the U.N. high commissioner for Human Rights in the offical U.N. - UPR database. Even a google search for EAJCW plus UPR brings some stakeholder information for the U.N. assembly.
The leaders contradict itself:
on the one hand they think: „ Hold on to the prinicple never mention association nor a former association, that is very important! Dont change anything“ and
on the other hand they say
„Let us change anything: Participate in task-forces for religious minorites and move heaven and earth with lawers and diplomats if it turns around that human rights are violated. Fight for your human rights like all jehovahs witnesses ever did before, be an engaged and law-abiding citizen who takes part at relevant platforms for our group and our agenda, yes man, show courage!
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"Who are those gentlemen that have room to negotiate, those gentlemen in suits who dont break out in sweat, those who have always known of a loophole argument to fulfill the plan."