Jehovah’s Witnesses, you can talk to apostates, there is a sound reason!

by Pinku 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Pinku

  Jeremiah simply rejected not only some major portions but even some major books of the Bible as not being inspired of God! (Jeremiah 7:22; 8:8) Yet he is read and widely revered. If so, why can’t you, JWs, talk to the people who are called 'apostates' (because they found some of the teachings of JWs unacceptable)?
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  Pinku

  Brief introduction:

  I never became a Witness, hence did not become an “apostate,” but belong to a family comprised of both. I am interested in their discussions.
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  Wild_Thing

  You're on the wrong website. We ARE the apostates!
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  villagegirl

  Pinku - How to you come to the conclusion that Jeremiah:

  "Jeremiah simply rejected not only some major portions but

  even some major books of the Bible as not being inspired of God!"

  And you cite Jeremiah 7:22 ? and 8:8 ???

  which say nothing at all to support your statement:

  Jeremiah 7:22 "For I didn’t speak to your fathers, nor command them

  in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning

  burnt offerings or sacrifices:"
  
  8 “At that time,” says Yahweh, “they shall bring out the bones of the kings

  of Judah, and the bones of his princes, and the bones of the priests,

  and the bones of the prophets, and the bones of the inhabitants

  of Jerusalem, out of their graves;"?

  Which part of the Bible did Jeremiah reject ?

  How do these scriptures prove your point ?

  Jeremiah's ministry was active from the thirteenth year of Josiah,

  king of Judah (626 BC), until after the fall of Jerusalem and the

  destruction of Solomon's Temple in ( 587 BC

  When Jeremiah was alive he had the Bible books to read from,

  written in Hebrew, The Torah; Genesis, Exodus Leviticus,Deuteronomy, etc ….

  and these scrolls all written in Hebrew and read in Temple:

  Chronicles, Kings,Isaiah, Joel. Jonah, proverbs, Psalms,Samuel,
  
  and others. Jerimiah is a major prophet, he never ever stated

  he "rejected major portions of the Bible"
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  Pinku

  Jeremiah rejected as later inventions all those accounts in the Pentateuch that say about sacrificial arrangements. (Jeremiah 7:22)

  In Jeremiah 8:8 what he rejects is Law (Torah, Hebrew), which means the first five books of the Bible.
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  Pinku

  Villagegirl, you did not get the right verse—here it is:
  "How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law [torah] of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie.—Jeremiah 8:8, New American Standard Bible
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  DATA-DOG

  That's very interesting. Just another reason to doubt the infallibility of the scrolls that the human council of Nicea [ not the FDS ] chose to call the " Holy Scriptures", a book that divides humanity like no other.

  Also, it's hard to know which Hebrew god was inspiring Jeremiah. Was it the very same God who let Noah get drunk and naked, but then cursed Ham just for walking into his tent and seeing his pee-pee??? Perhaps it was the God who saved Lot and allowed him to commit incest, but killed Lot's wife for having a normal human reaction to the death of a whole city of men, women and children? Or was it the gods that came down and stopped humans from building a tower? I mean..wow!! What a threat that brick tower must have been to the most powerful beings in the Universe!!

  It's just hard to say for sure.

  DD
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  suavojr

  very interesting