Vulcan--2013,May,Our Kingdom Ministry/

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  • Atlantis

    2013, May, Our Kingdom Ministry . Link by the blue box and blue arrow. . Click on slow download. . Click the green download button. . . Vulcan .

  • Gayle

    Reg. Pio. increasing yet. I think increases in Bermuda and Bahamas may be retiring U.S. JWs really just want to go to the 'islands' and pioneer, relax and yet WTS glory too.

  • Roberta804

    Thanks for the download.

    Hey what is that little blurb at the end about young men of the United States signing up for the Selective Service and that little reminder they must notify of their any address change? Are they trying to make brownie points with Obama????

  • Prefect

    Thank you.

    Love the bike.


  • bats in the belfry
    bats in the belfry

    . . . yeah. Thank you.

  • Barrold Bonds
    Barrold Bonds

    Roberta: They've put that info about the draft every year for as long as I can remember, at least 20 years.

  • Lore

    Are they trying to make brownie points with Obama????


    You racist.

  • Roberta804

    Roberta: They've put that info about the draft every year for as long as I can remember, at least 20 years.

    That is news to my husband and I, but we have been out over 20 years. I read that to my husband and he about had a stroke! He used to be an elder, and said to me that he can not imagine ever seeing a blurb like that even being whispered.

  • Maralee

    Thank you Atlantis

  • Roberta804

    Now I know I am old when the blurb reminding all young men to register for selective service in the March 2013 KM doesn't seem to bat an eye with all of you. For Pete's sake I am only 56. But I remember clearly in the 60s and 70s (of the 1900's) that the JWs from the top to the rank and file were all about avoiding the selective service and if need be young men went to jail for 3 years durning the Vietnam War. I personally knew of 2 that went to prision. And now they are reminding/encouraging young men to make sure they sign up?

    Mouthy, you must have something to say on this, you have been around at least as long as I have. This really is minding blowing!!!!!!

  • Juan Viejo2
    Juan Viejo2

    In the USA we've always had to register for the Selective Service within a few weeks of our 18th birthdays. I don't know of anyone who didn't do that.

    In the USA, the military is now "all-volunteer," and the "draft" has not been used for many years. But Selective Service is still in place and can be reactivated very quickly should there be a national emergency (i.e., Red Chinese soldiers land on the beaches of Malibu, California, etc.) I don't know if local draft boards are still in place, as they would have nothing to do, but I know that they can grab enough politicians to volunteer for a sizable sum of money to staff those boards.

    I think the last time any JWs actually went to prison was in the early 1970s.

    The bigger issue is "national service." The USA has remnants of the Peace Corp and a couple of other semi-voluntary service organizations, but none are used as alternatives to actual military draft. The Watchtower's position has always been, and still seems to be along those lines, that anything connected with military functions is verboten. And yet I am amazed at how many JWs work for police departments in support roles and in courthouse clerical positions - clearly government jobs requiring questionable compromises.


  • itsyou

    Can somebody explain the timeline please? TIA

    • Awake 22 July 1970

    Watching the World: Who are entitled to draft exemption? The Supreme Court of the United States ruled on June 15 that men who have conscientious scruples against all war based on moral and ethical reasons are entitled to draft exemptions. The new interpretation of the Selective Service law by the High Court’s 5-to-3 decision exempts from military service “all those whose consciences, spurred by deeply held moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, would give them no rest or peace if they allowed themselves to become a part of an instrument of war.” Considerations of policy, pragmatism or expediency would be no bases for exemption, the Court ruled.

    • Awake 22 May 1975

    Watching the World: The U.S. Selective Service System’s requirement for a man to register for the draft within a month of his eighteenth birthday was abolished on April 1. Now all men born in a given year will be required to register during just one brief period each year. The dates are to be announced later this year. When the induction system was replaced by the volunteer army, it was feared that many men would either unintentionally or purposely forget to register. However, the Selective Service System director reports that more 18-year-olds registered last year than were believed to be alive.

    • Kingdom Ministry June 1976

    Announcements: The Government has announced that the Selective Service arrangement ceased to function as of January 23, so none now reaching 18 years of age will have to register. Brothers of draft age who are in the pioneer service, or elders or ministerial servants, should not request of the Society certificates to use verifying their ordination, since the draft arrangement no longer functions.

    • Kingdom Ministry May 1983

    Announcements: Selective service regulations require that all men register for the draft when reaching 18 years of age. All of those required to do so should take care of this matter promptly, viewing it as a Christian’s obligation to the superior authorities. Elders will want to have in mind when young brothers are nearing the age of 18 and give them appropriate reminders. Questions as to the young Christian’s responsibilities in this regard may be answered by the elders.

    ....and approximately annually thereafter (depending on other KM Announcements?) with wording variations up to....

    • Kingdom Ministry January 2008

    Announcements: U.S. Selective Service regulations require that all men under the age of 26 who are (1) citizens and have reached 18 years of age or (2) noncitizens who move to the United States must register within 30 days. From the time a man registers until he turns 26, he must notify Selective Service within ten days of any change of address. Compliance with this law is a Christian’s obligation to the superior authorities. Elders should remind those to whom this applies or will soon apply of their duty to register.


  • factfinder

    Thank you Vulcan!!!


    I think I'll just take the bike and you can keep the links.

  • TheListener

    Elders in a lot of congregations will have a brief conversation with any brother about to turn 18 to make sure they register. It's more of a friendly remidner than some sort of heavy handed discussion.

  • Roberta804

    This explains it well Thank you

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