Personal Validation Fallacy - as Applied to "World Conditions"

by BluesBrother 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Otherwise known as "The Forer Effect" after the guy who first demonstrated it, this is the means by which fake astrologers can appear to make amazing comments about you, which they could not possibly have known. Bertram Forer presented his class with what he said was a personality assessment created for them individually. In fact every paper was the same. They were all told :

    "You have a need for other people to like and admire you, and yet you tend to be critical of yourself. While you have some personality weaknesses you are generally able to compensate for them. You have considerable unused capacity that you have not turned to your advantage. Disciplined and self-controlled on the outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure on the inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You also pride yourself as an independent thinker; and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. But you have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, and sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, and reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be rather unrealistic."

    This was cobbled together from astrology newspaper columns. They were asked to assess its accuracy and they rated it to be over 85% accurate based on their own view of themselves, all of them!

    What does this show? It means that human beings will like to have their own view of things reinforced, and are susceptible to con tricks based on their own self image.

    Now consider how the Watchtower Society uses the Scriptures to show "conclusively" that we are living in the "Last Days"...Based on a literal reading of 2 Timothy chapter 3, the Watchtower describes our days as

    "Critical times, hard to deal with , when men are self assuming, haughty, disobedient, lovers of money, unthankful , disloyal etc etc......."

    Now, to a person who feels they have been passed by in the rat race of life - and imbued with a whinging personality, this is music to their ears!

    "Yes, Yes, Yes! that is exactly how life is today - The Watchtower is right"..They have personally validated the fulfilment of the text based on their own perception of life , coupled with the rosy view of the past that is presented by the WTS.

    In reality the descriptions of human nature may be applied to any time period in history , if you want to. There have always been a number of people like that, and always will be

    Where does this leave the WTS - as spiritual leaders and reliable teachers of the Word of God?

    Or cheap tricksters using the basic techniques of 'snake oil salesmen' and hucksters

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Excellent post, BluesBrother!

    To segue off of the subject for a moment... For anyone who still believes in astrology, try reading ALL of the horoscopes for the day...

    Zid

  • Pika_Chu
    Pika_Chu

    I agree. They see what they want to in the world.

  • james_woods
    james_woods
    For anyone who still believes in astrology, try reading ALL of the horoscopes for the day...

    And then apply the same thing to Nostradamus...

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Bumpin' da thread...

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    The context of 2 Tim 3 makes it very clear that the "Last Days" Paul was describing wasn't a prophecy for later, he was talking about his day in the first century were the last days. Yep, nearly 2000 years worth of last days so far.

    And that's the thing about the "Last Days", they last...

    and last...

    and last...

    and last...

    and last...

    and last...

  • james_woods
    james_woods
    And that's the thing about the "Last Days", they last...
    and last...

    Well, if you wanted to throw those bible last days writers a bone - Jerusalem did get destroyed, and I guess so did Pompeii and eventually Rome.

    On the other hand, one respected bible scholar honestly wrote that "these are some of the most embarrassing passages in the New Testament".

  • ssn587
    ssn587

    self delusional fulfillment of end time prophecy. this thread brought a smile to my face, much if not all of the supposed sign(s) of the last days can be at any one time in the history of man. People read into things what they want to see, not always what is really there, or they are told they are wrong (ala wtbts) and kicked if they persist on insisting things aren't what they appear.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Good thread Bluesbrother . . .

    Understanding the personal validation effect is essential in gaining total freedom from the cult-induced mindest. The WTS hammers this for all it's worth.

    Your thread has prompted me to think however . . . just to what extent were the bible writers . . . especially Paul . . . unknowing victims of the same perceptive distortion . . . or knowing perpetrators of it's effectivness?

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