A Response to a JW Sister's question to me

by Halya 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • Halya
    Halya

    Dear _____________

    ALL scriptures and interpretations of scriptures (as in WT publications) are a supermarket where you can select how you will conceptualise God, and JWs are no exception. There are some aspects of Jehovah in the WT publications that are more totalitarian than any secular government and some that are kinder than anything that exists in most societies today. We choose the kind of God we want from the sources we have available to us. Your version is not the only one among JWs. Because of the tight control on free speech wihin the JW congregations, it is something that people don't get to know readily unless they access JW opinions more widely. But I still love you, the organisation and its people. I would not have stuck around for 4 decades if I didn't see something good in it. But not a construction of Jehovah that is as totalitarian as secular dictators, and not one that collapses the distinction between the FDS and God.

    I think the JW religion at its best is helping the marginalised to develop the skills they need to live in peace in society, and if they can come to the place where they can see that some might be able to serve God even more fully by going on to higher education and becoming doctors, lawyers, politicians etc, they might be able to help transform society into the kingdom of God we have all been waiting for. Society cannot be transformed into a place of peace by an Armageddon - violence breeds violence. And it is usually the meek and powerless that are eradicated, which means the survivors are the ones who carry on the oppressive traditions. But people who are prepared to die rather than be violent, like Jesus, Ghandi, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Junior, sets into motion a transformation that like leven grows into something different. That lump of leven consisting of all who choose death rather than violence, is the kingdom of God growing imperceptively in the world. JWs are part of this, as are many others, including Muslims who want the same non-violence. And this 'love must be for those who are 'other' than yourself. Even Jesus said, of what good is it if you love only your own, even the taxcollectors do that. The love that transforms is the love that extends to those who are not 'us'.

    And people are leaving the JW organisation. I have heard JW DOs nd COs say that they are losing 60% of their youth. In some congregations, 100% of youth who have gone on to higher education, have left (is it any wonder there is counsel to avoid higher education). There are whole families leaving the JW org all over the place, and the FDS is concerned. I have read two of the 2009 new releases and I can see the concern in one of them by what is highlighted in it. And the fear of the FDS of losing control is becoming very obvious to many JWs and ex JWs. Many of them predict changes to stop the decline. The internet has made what is secret public and this knowledge cannot be stopped. People can be frightened into not accessing the knowledge, but eventually people find out what organisations have tried to keep from them. It is like an inheritor wandering around as a pauper because he/she has been prohibited from accessing the will. But, when the will is made known to him/her, nothing can stop the change. They realise they do not have to live in fear and poverty any more, dependent on the crumbs someone is prepared to give them. But as children of God, they can use their new freedom to serve others. And this is where the problem often is. People learn about their freedom, but not how to use it wisely, and they often shipwreck the process. I think this is what the FDS is afraid of. This is what I am afraid of too - that instead of using the new freedom to do what they now do out of fear, they will just leave the JW organisation altogether. I want the JW org to continue, but in a more egalitarian and loving way.

    I hope that when people can appreciate the wonderful things that living in peace allows, they can combine this freedom with the same kind of motivation to live in peace and love that fear inspires in JWs. I would love to be able to go with you door to door to bring a message of a loving God who wants us all to live in non-violence and peace to create a kingdom of God on earth, with no Armageddon slaughtering the billions. How can you expect people to live non-violence when the current basic message is one of violence! Violence breeds violence. The message for living non-violence must come from a God of non-violence - someone like the non-violent Jesus who would rather die than kill. A God who plans to kill 99.9% of the population cannot inspire non-violent subjects - only ones who enjoy violence vicariously through their God and who perpetrate it through their discourses if not their actions.

    So in answer to your question, do I know Jehovah? Not the kind that kills billions of innocent ones because they don't subscribe to a particular interpretation of scripture, but one who loves beyond what is even possible to conceive and asks us to take the best models of non-violent love (like Jesus) and try to copy that pattern. That is what I want to do. And that inspires me to want to be your sister, even though you infer that I don't know God or 'truth'. No matter what our differences of belief, you are a child of God to me, and my sister.

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    Welcome, Halya!

    This is quite a response.

    But people who are prepared to die rather than be violent, like Jesus, Ghandi, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Junior, sets into motion a transformation that like leven grows into something different. That lump of leven consisting of all who choose death rather than violence, is the kingdom of God growing imperceptively in the world. JWs are part of this, as are many others, including Muslims who want the same non-violence. And this 'love must be for those who are 'other' than yourself. Even Jesus said, of what good is it if you love only your own, even the taxcollectors do that. The love that transforms is the love that extends to those who are not 'us'.

    I agree with you on this wholeheartedly, however, this is NOT the JW way. They are the only ones who are God's people... who are God's chosen religion. You won't last long if you make this known.

    I'm usually not as nice as you. If anyone asks me if I know Jehovah it's usually a setup type question (I've had them before) to smite me in some way and so I answer with a question. I would have asked "Does she?" If she says 'Yes', I'd say "Prove it."

    I hope to read more of your story and hope you can contribute more as time goes by.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Welcome. Nice letter.

  • jamiebowers
    jamiebowers

    Welcome to JWN.

  • Halya
    Halya

    Thank you for the welcome and yes, 'Heaven', I too am learning to answer questions with questions. It is annoying being constantly asked whether I really know and serve Jehovah and being told I am being disobedient to Jehovah because I don't see things like she does. But, I am hoping that with our continued discussions, she will accept that there are other legitimate opinions apart from hers and the FDS.

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hi Halya and welcome aboard!

    Here some thoughts I had from your letter.

    For sure, there are a diverse interpretations of the bible. The thing is, how does God want us to interpret them? That is the most important thing. Now that kind of revelation only comes from Jesus' Holy Spirit 1 Corinthians 2:10

    Yes, God gives us gift an wants us to use them, they are diverse as you have listed. The Lord has made it clear that my daughter's calling is in dance and art. We do not push her but just encourage. Her gift is blossoming. As the bible says Colossians 3:23

    Love is the hallmark of God, and this should be clearly apparent in His children 1 John 3:18 1 John 3:10

    Unfortunately fear and "works" are the hallmarks of the WT. They talk about the religion all day long but faith is a low propriety.

    Peace is wonderful and Jesus brings a special kind :) John 14:27 John 16:33 He isn't call Prince of Peace for nothing!

    Knowing Jehovah is not the issue but knowing Jesus is paramount Matthew 7:21-23 John 8:20 John 10:13-15 John 14:8-10 Hebrews 8:10-12

    Some important verses to leave you with John 14:6 John 3:16 John 1:1

    All the best,

    Stephen

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