Cult Statistics: JWs vs Mormons

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  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    How does this compare with JW statistics?

    Mormon missionaries=50,000

    Latin America=biggest growth

    What are other similarities between Mormons and JWs? What do they have in common?

    (Reuters) - Mormonism is growing in Latin America where new members are attracted by such factors as the church's affluence and stability, as well as its family image and the belief that Jesus Christ visited the Americas after he was resurrected.

    The following are facts about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as the Mormon church is formally called:

    * The once-isolated group, based in Salt Lake City, Utah, is one of the fastest-growing and most affluent religions. More than half of its 13.5 million members live outside the United States.

    * The Mormon flock is flourishing in Latin America, especially in Mexico and Brazil, with some 5.2 million members and 5,500 chapels.

    * The Mormon church has distinctly American origins. It was founded in 1830 in upstate New York by Joseph Smith, who said he received the word of God from an angel named Moroni, who guided him to tablets that told the story of the Book of Mormon about an ancient civilization of Israelites sent by God to America. A year later, he was persecuted and forced to flee to the Midwest, where he was killed. His followers then undertook a mass 1,100-mile (1,800-km) migration in 1846-47 to Utah.

    * Mormons have three books of scripture other than the Bible. One is the Book of Mormon, which Mormons believe was translated from golden plates discovered by Smith. Adherents decline to use alcohol, coffee and tobacco.

    * The Mormon church originally allowed polygamy. The custom was officially banned in 1890 when Washington, angered by its spread, threatened to deny statehood to Utah. Today, Mormon leaders distance themselves from about 40,000 breakaway Mormons in Utah and nearby states who illegally continue the practice.

    * Today, about 50,000 missionaries -- often young men in business suits walking the world's streets in pairs -- project a wholesome, family-oriented image that has helped swell global Mormon adherents by 36 percent from 1995 to 2005.

    (Compiled by Jason Szep and Fiona Ortiz)

  • moshe
    moshe

    You can get something for free from the Mormons. A neighbor lady of mine had two young Mormon girls call on her and when they found out she was a widow they came back and raked all of her leaves for her that fall. I have never known of JW's to do that!

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    Neither believes in the Trinity.

    Both are commonly viewed as cults.

    Mormons do excommunicate (not like the JWs, but not like a lot of mainline churches either.) Mormons can quietly leave. Excommunicated Mormons are not shunned by order of their authority figures, although some are shunned in fact. LDS will speak to former LDS, though they may feel uncomfortable, they are in no trouble with their bishops or the heirarchy of the church, so it is a personal decision, not a congregational one.

    Both have a high rate of leaving/inactivity. They baptise many more than stay active or engaged in the religion.

  • Quandry
    Quandry

    At least the mormons have a big choir that sings Christmas songs. They sound great. The witnesses have the same canned music all the time.....

  • TheOldHippie
    TheOldHippie

    You can get something for free from the Mormons. A neighbor lady of mine had two young Mormon girls call on her and when they found out she was a widow they came back and raked all of her leaves for her that fall. I have never known of JW's to do that!

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    "For free"? When you have to pay tithe?

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    The difference between JW statistics and Mormon statistics is that Mormon statistics are a load of crap.

    Because they only count publishers JWs consistently understate the number of adherents.

    Mormons on the other hand baptise people within 6 weeks of contact, and count them as members for the rest of their lives whether they ever attend another Mormon service or not. This means that the vast majority of people who are counted as Mormons do not think of themselves as Mormons, most have got on with their lives, and many of them probably attend different churches.

    Take Mexico as just one example (any other country show the same pattern).

    Jehovah's Witnesses claim about 600,000 publisher in Mexico. But the latest census in 2000 showed that over 1,000,000 identified themselves as JWs.

    Compare that with Mormons who claim to have over a 1,000,000 members in Mexico. But how many identified themselves as Mormons in the census? Only 205,000. That means in that one country alone the Mormon Church claims 5 times more adherents than it actually has.

    http://www.inegi.gob.mx/prod_serv/contenidos/espanol/bvinegi/productos/censos/poblacion/2000/definitivos/Nal/tabulados/00re01.pdf

    http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_mormonmembership.html

    The idea that the Mormon Church is having any increase at all these days is a sign of a successful media campaign rather than a sign of real success. In truth there are fewer Mormons than there are Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide, and while Jehovah's Witnesses still have modest growth the indications are that the Mormon Church started to decline a few years ago.

  • poppers
    poppers
    You can get something for free from the Mormons. A neighbor lady of mine had two young Mormon girls call on her and when they found out she was a widow they came back and raked all of her leaves for her that fall. I have never known of JW's to do that!

    That very thing happened to me a year ago. Two Morman missionaries came up to me when I was outside and the first thing they said was, "Is there anything we can do to help you around here?" I said they could help me rake my lawn, and they did. Whenever they are here they ask if there is anything I need help with before talking about their "thing". Two doors away I have JW neighbors; in the 30 years they have lived there they haven't once even greeted me.

  • Tuesday
    Tuesday

    Both produced family musical groups

    The JWs produced the Jackson 5

    The Mormons produced The Osmonds

    That right there should show you which is more destructive.

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