CCoJWs Requests/Denied Local Tax Money Allocation

by MadApostate 27 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • MadApostate
    MadApostate

    Here is a Television Station (NBC 25) webpage that reports the Tri-Cities scandal. (I'm borrowing this from Amazing who placed this in a separate thread, so all links on this issue can be found in one place.)

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    Contribution may have to go elsewhere

    KNDU News

    Jan. 22 - Kennewick's city attorney says the city may have to re-nig on a six-thousand-dollar contribution.
    The city was planning on giving that money to the Watchtower Convention, that's a Jehovah's Witness convention that comes to the Tri-Cities every year. The state auditor's office had concerns the money wasn't being spent properly. And, in a report to the auditor's office, city attorney John Ziobro admits the funds weren't going to the right place.

    As an alternative, the city can give the money directly to the coliseum. But that's something council members will have to decide.

    "The money was not going to marketing and promotion, but instead was going to rent subsidy and that's what caused the auditor to question how the money was being utilized."--John Ziobro, Kennewick city attorney

    . http://www.msnbc.com/local/kndu/m140058.asp

  • LoneWolf
    LoneWolf

    ?????? This has been going on since Dec. 3? I thought I'd been checking the board pretty regularly, but I sure missed it.

    You've gone to an awful lot of work. Keep up the good job and keep posting the results. I'm interested.

    Incidentally, my family usually goes to one of the ones in Kennewick.

    LoneWolf

  • MadApostate
    MadApostate

    This newspaper article points out the reason that some city's news media are hesitant, or flat out refuse, to run stories about WTS Conventions receiving grants of tax dollars from the city or the CVB, or about city-owned or state-owned venues giving the WTS deep discounts off the regular rental rate.

    Part of the problem is that local CVBs far overestimate the $$$ impact of WTS Conventions, which makes the local politicians eager to give the WTS as much as $16,000 a year.

    Probably 75% of WTS Conventions receive rental rates which range from free to 75% of the regular rate.

    As shown in the posts starting this thread, in some cities the WTS has even conspired with the local CVB or city tourism dept to illegally obtain $$$ from the local room tax fund, which state legislation says is to be used to "promote tourism", (not directly subsidize individual convention's expenses).

    These scenarios will continue until the exact scenario is investigated in each city, with disclosure then made to local taxpayer groups who aren't favorable to, what is in effect, donation of tax dollars to the WTS.

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    Friday January 04 02:10 AM EST

    TCC losing out on concert revenue

    By Joe Burchell,
    ARIZONA DAILY STAR

    Competition is pushing the Tucson Convention Center, once the only place in town to see big-name performers ranging from Elvis to Elton John to the Rolling Stones, into the background of the concert picture here.

    The TCC's fall from concert popularity comes as the City Council is contemplating cutting off the center's yearly $3.1 million taxpayer subsidy, requiring it to bring in enough money to cover its operating costs of $7 million.

    With the city facing potential budget deficits during the next several years, Vice Mayor Carol West said at a recent City Council budget meeting that making the TCC self-supporting, so the $3.1 million taxpayer subsidy can be used for other needs, should be a priority.

    Touring concerts are among the most profitable users of the 31-year-old center, helping to offset the losses resulting from the council-mandated discounts given to conventions and local nonprofit groups.

    Six concerts were staged in the 9,700-seat TCC Arena last year, down from nine in 2000.

    Last year's events also tended to be smaller draws. The largest crowd was 7,558 at an Ozzy Osbourne concert in November, compared with more than 8,500 for both Elton John and Kiss in 2000.

    Meanwhile, the county's Tucson Electric Park got into the concert business last year, drawing more than 10,000 people to two of its four events; two casinos opened concert venues with acts that once might have played the TCC; and Old Tucson continued to upgrade its summer concert series.

    Competition for the concert dollar only figures to get stiffer this year because the casino concert facilities that opened in the fall will be in operation for the full year and TEP is planning to expand its concert offerings.

    After clearing a $54,000 profit on four concerts last year, TEP hopes to hold six shows this year.

    "We are really trying to push public service and public safety and cooperation to get our foot in the door with the promoters," said Kate O'Rielly, the county's director of community services.

    The Pima County Fairgrounds, a nonplayer in the concert arena the last couple of years, has hired a new executive director and marketing director who hope to start staging concerts there.

    For the TCC to break even, Director Hymie Gonzales said the city needs to increase the rates for conventions and nonprofit groups, on which it now breaks even or loses money when those events are held. Or the city could bring in more commercial events like concerts and family shows, which could require displacing some of those low-revenue users, he said.

    For example, every summer the Jehovah's Witness convention occupies much of the facility for five weeks. The group pays discounted rent, gets free parking, allows no concession sales, and generates no ticket fees, which means the TCC loses money on the event.

    But pushing the event out of the convention center would set off protests by hotel and restaurant owners who count on the 15,000 attendees to pump up summer business, he said.

    Gonzales said he's trying to establish better relationships with concert promoters and developing plans to co-promote some events as first steps toward re-establishing the TCC's position as a concert venue.

    Danny Zelesko, president of Evening Star Productions, confirmed TCC representatives are reaching out to promoters more.

    "They're very anxious to get more shows in there, and they are anxious to make deals to get the right shows." he said. "In the past, there were people down there who didn't seem to care if they had shows in there or not."

    Zelesko said THE TCC is a victim of changes in the concert business and of increased competition. The big-name groups are playing fewer dates, charging more and ignoring smaller markets like Tucson.

    Gonzales said the cost of doing fewer and smaller shows is significant. Financial breakdowns of each of the major concerts were not available. The Convention Center did bring in $3.9 million last year for all its events, including conventions, trade shows and concerts.

    Ozzy Osbourne brought the TCC nearly $70,000 before expenses, and it wasn't nearly as successful as the bigger shows from past years, he said. The next-biggest show last year was rapper Snoop Dogg and Friends, which drew just over 5,600 people.

    Concert promoter Ryan Dahlstrom of C&R Entertainment said TCC rental rates are one of the reasons business is going elsewhere.

    One night in the arena is $2,530 or 10 percent of the ticket sales, whichever is more. Plus the center gets a 5 percent box office fee, a $1 ticket surcharge, 35 percent of merchandise sales and all concession revenue.

    Dahlstrom has mostly promoted shows at Old Tucson and Desert Diamond Casino, which he said is upgrading its lighting and sound systems to be more attractive to concerts.
    Gonzales said it costs more to rent the TCC than most other venues because it costs more to heat, cool, light and maintain an indoor facility than an outdoor one.

    He said he can't compete on rent with places like Old Tucson, the New West nightclub in Marana and the casinos because they are using concerts to attract customers to their primary business and absorbing much of the shows' costs.
    Rob Horgan, director of marketing and public relations at Old Tucson, confirmed that's what the park is doing.

    The park, which has gotten increasingly into the concert business since reopening in 1997, needed a way to attract Southern Arizona residents in the summer so it included free admission to eight concerts as part of its $45 annual pass, Horgan said.

    Dahlstrom also promoted five other concerts at Old Tucson, for a total of 13 shows in 2001.

    With just 4,000 seats, Horgan said he doesn't believe Old Tucson is competing with TCC. But of the six arena concerts at the TCC, only two attracted more than 4,000 customers.

    * Contact Joe Burchell at 573-4244 or at [email protected]

  • MadApostate
    MadApostate

    Considering that "sports" have been equated to a "religion", and the "arenas/stadiums" equated to "churches", there's HYPOCRISY somewhere in this transaction.

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    Minutes of the Council of the City of San Diego for the Regular Meeting of Tuesday, November 4, 1997

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    ITEM-110:

    SUBJECT: Agreement with the Jehovah's Witnesses for Construction Services at Qualcomm Stadium.(District-6.)

    CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION:

    Adopt the following resolution: (R-98-456)
    ADOPTED AS RESOLUTION R-289372

    Authorizing an agreement with the Jehovah's Witnesses to provide construction services in exchange for the use of Qualcomm Stadium.

    CITY MANAGER SUPPORTING INFORMATION:
    Since 1984 the Jehovah's Witnesses of San Diego have conducted their conventions at Qualcomm Stadium which are a positive impact to the San Diego economy. Beginning in 1985, the Jehovah's Witnesses performed various construction projects which benefitted the Stadium in exchange for rent credits for their events. The projects included: remodeling offices; construction of offices for the 1988 Super Bowl Task Force; and construction of a game day event room. In addition, the Jehovah's Witnesses have also performed numerous construction projects for the Stadium and extensive cleaning of the facility at no cost to the City. This relationship has worked extremely well for both the City and Jehovah's Witnesses. With the expansion of the Stadium, there is now a need for
    providing administrative offices for the Stadium staff. Also, the locker room, lunch room, and offices for the Stadium field crew are in extremely poor condition and are in need of major renovations. These areas are planned to be used by the NFL for the Super Bowl. The Jehovah's Witnesses are willing to take on
    both of these projects in exchange for rent credits.
    It is estimated that the cost of both projects is $383,000. The City
    will provide funds, not to exceed $54,000, towards the projects, with the balance of $329,000 given as 44 days of rent credits.
    In addition, the Jehovah's Witnesses would continue to perform miscellaneous projects as requested by the City and the usual outstanding job of cleaning the Stadium.

    Aud. Cert. 9800475.

    FILE LOCATION:

    LEAS - Jehovah's Witnesses of San Diego (61 Stadium) LEASFY98-1

    COUNCIL ACTION: (Tape location: D418-488.)

    MOTION BY VARGAS TO ADOPT. Second by Kehoe. Passed by the following vote: Mathis-yea, Wear-not present, Kehoe-yea, Stevens-yea, Warden-not present, Stallings-yea, McCarty-yea, Vargas-yea, Mayor Golding-yea.

  • MadApostate
    MadApostate

    Convention Authority of the City of Providence

    Financial Statements

    Fiscal Years Ended
    September 30, 1994 to 1999

    Ernest A. Almonte, CPA, CFE
    Auditor General

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    Providence Civic Center
    7/25/94

    2,500 Subsidy for certain Providence Civic Center expenses of Jehovah Witness convention.

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    Providence Civic Center
    09/06/95

    2,500 Subsidy for certain Providence Civic Center expenses of Jehovah Witness Convention.

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    Providence Civic Center
    05/08/96

    2,500 Subsidy for certain Providence Civic Center expenses of Jehovah Witness Convention.

  • MadApostate
    MadApostate

    Since at least 1997, the Amarillo, Texas Convention and Visitor Council has paid the WTS's rent at the local Civic Center for every single District Convention.

    These tax dollar subsidies to the WTS have totalled over $58,000 since 1997, with more payments totalling approximately $16,000 planned for the 2002 DCs.

    No Wonder: JWs LOVE AMARILLO!!!

  • MadApostate
  • MadApostate
    MadApostate

    WTS says: "We will not continue to use your building free-of-charge unless you pay us $80,000 for our cost to install a new sound system."

    Politicians say: "Great Deal!"

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    REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

    Billings, Montana

    Tuesday, April 21, 1998


    The meeting was called to order at 9:00 a.m.


    PRESENT – Commissioners Kennedy, Chairman, Mathew and Ziegler; Board Clerk, Tammy Dexter; Clerk & Recorder, Tony Nave.

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    ADD-ON (FROM CONSENT AGENDA) – AUDITOR – MetraPark Sound System Contract.

    Commissioner Kennedy called on Bill Chiesa, General Manager, MetraPark. Mr. Chiesa stated that following the WatchTower Conference in 1996, it was brought to Mr. Chiesa's attention (by WatchTower), that based on the deteriorating sound system at Metra, they would probably no longer be able to use MetraPark for future conferences. Mr. Chiesa noted that even though WatchTower is probably not one of Metra's big money makers, it does bring about 7,000 people to Billings for four or five days. Mr. Chiesa explained further, that the following winter, WatchTower contacted him and asked if they could send a representative (a company out of Springfield, Missouri, that often travels with WatchTower) in to evaluate the sound system to see if it could be repaired. The results of the four (4) day testing showed that the system (installed 25 years ago) was totally inadequate – almost like a tube radio compared to the systems that are available today. The representatives told Mr. Chiesa they would like to offer MetraPark a proposal. Mr. Chiesa then checked with Audio Acoustics and found out this company was a nationally recognized "design and install" sound reinforcement company. Mr. Chiesa took the proposal to CTA Architects and they found the information to be quality information. The proposal was that this company lease-purchase the system (where they would be reimbursed for the equipment) and WatchTower would pay for all of the labor. Mr. Chiesa stated he then met with the MetraPark Board and the Board decided it would be appropriate to proceed, if legal. Mr. Chiesa met with the County Attorney and after a number of meetings, the conclusion was to proceed. Mr. Chiesa noted that he had copies of the minutes of the June 24th MetraPark Board meeting at which Commissioners Kennedy and Ziegler were present, where the motion to proceed was made, carried and passed. The system was to cost Yellowstone County $80,000 over a four (4) year period. The claim was processed and submitted in August and still has not been paid. Mr. Chiesa encouraged the Board to approve the claim for payment.

    Leo Hudetz, County Auditor, stated he received the $20,000 claim (payable to WatchTower) two weeks ago. Leo noted this sound system is set up on the County's books as a $115,000 fixed asset. Leo stated that his concern, according to Montana Codes Annotated, is the fact that any goods purchased over $20,000 shall be sent out for sealed bids. Mr. Chiesa told Mr. Hudetz that the County Attorney's Office said this item did not need to be put out for bids. Mr. Hudetz stated he believes this item should have been put out for bid. Mr. Hudetz brought up the issue of renting out fair buildings to WatchTower. Mr. Hudetz asked Brent Brooks, County Attorney's Office, for a copy of his Opinion regarding this issue. Mr. Brooks' Opinion referred to two (2) cases: an Attorney General's Opinion out of Park County and a Supreme Court Case out of Gallatin County. Mr. Hudetz stated that the way he reads the Opinions is that the County Commissioners have the authority to rent out county fair buildings during non-fair times. The connection of renting the building out and buying a sound system is that the County has been renting the building to WatchTower and forgiving the rent. Mr. Hudetz noted again, that the County is paying $115,000 to WatchTower and he believes this item should have been bid out. Mr. Hudetz noted also that the only person that signed the sound system contract was Bill Chiesa and according to the Opinion submitted by Brent Brooks, the County Commissioners need to sign all rental contracts other than during the fair. Mr. Hudetz stated he just wanted to bring this to the Board's attention and asked for the Board's official approval of the sound system contract so the claim can be paid. Brent Brooks, Deputy County Attorney, submitted a copy of Section 7-21-3409, M.C.A. to the Board. Mr. Brooks informed the Board of the General Rules of Statutory Construction. When there is a particular statute that covers a particular item in a very specific way (as it appears to in this case), that is going to control over general statutes. Mr. Brooks read Section 1-2-102, M.C.A. Commissioner Mathew reminded the Board that a few years ago, the Commissioners passed a Resolution allowing Metra to handle all of their own contracts. Commissioner Kennedy asked if the Resolution was just for fair contracts. This matter will be checked into.

    Commissioner Mathew then MOVED to approve the sound system contract and to execute the claim in the amount of $20,000 to WatchTower. Commissioner Ziegler seconded. Unanimous.

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