Solon or Moses??

by Julie 2 Replies latest jw friends

  • Julie
    Julie

    Greetings to All:

    In light of a recent thread on the ten commandments I wanted to post a few paragraphs that compare two authors of sets of ten "commandments". It is interesting to hear Christians claim that the ten commandments from the bible are at the heart of law and justice. It is also utter nonsense. Have a look:

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The man I am talking about is Solon the Athenian. Solon was born, we believe, around 638 B.C.E., and lived until approximately 558, but the date in his life of greatest importance to us is the year he was elected to create a constitution for Athens, 594 B.C.E. How important is this man? Let's examine what we owe to him, in comparison with the legendary author (or at last, in legend, the transmitter) of the Judeo-Christian Ten Commandments. Solon is the founder of Western democracy and the first man in history to articulate ideas of equal rights for all citizens, and though he did not go nearly as far in the latter as we have come today, Moses can claim no connection to either. Solon was the first man in Western history to publicly record a civil constitution in writing. No one in Hebrew history did anything of the kind, least of all Moses. Solon advocated not only the right but even the duty of every citizen to bear arms in the defense of the state--to him we owe the 2nd Amendment. Nothing about that is to be found in the Ten Commandments of Moses. Solon set up laws defending the principles and importance of private property, state encouragement of economic trades and crafts, and a strong middle class--the ideals which lie at the heart of American prosperity, yet which cannot be credited at all to Moses.

    Solon is the first man in history to eliminate birth as a basis for government office, and to create democratic assemblies open to all male citizens, such that no law could be passed without the majority vote of all. The notion of letting women into full political rights would not arise in any culture until that of modern Europe, but democracy never gets a single word in the Bible. Solon invented the right of appeal and trial by jury, whereby an assembly of citizens chosen at random, without regard for office or wealth or birth, gave all legal verdicts. Moses can claim nothing as fundamental as these developments, which are absolutely essential to modern society. The concept of taking a government official to court for malfeasance we owe to Solon. We read nothing of the kind about Moses. The idea of allowing foreigners who have mastered a useful trade to immigrate and become citizens is also an original invention of Solon--indeed, the modern concept of citizenship itself is largely indebted to him. There is nothing like this in the Bible. And like our own George Washington, Solon declined the offer to become ruler in his country, giving it a Constitution instead--unlike Moses who gave laws yet continued to reign. And Solon's selfless creation of the Athenian constitution set the course which led to the rise of the first universal democracy in the United States, and it was to Solon's Athens, not the Bible, that our Founding Fathers looked for guidance in constructing a new State. Moses can claim no responsibility for this. If we had Solon and no Moses, we would very likely still be where we are today. But if we had Moses and no Solon, democracy might never have existed at all.

    So much for being the impetus behind our Constitution. The Ten Commandments of Moses have no connection with that, while the Constitution of Solon has everything to do with it. But what about ethics? Let us examine the Ten Commandments offered by each of these men and compare their worth and significance to Western society. Of course, neither man's list was unique to him--Moses was merely borrowing ideas that had already been chiseled in stone centuries before by Hammurabi, King of Babylon (and unlike the supposed tablets of Moses, the Stone of Hammurabi still exists and is on display in the Louvre). Likewise, Solon's Ten Ethical Dicta were a reflection and refinement of wisdom that was already ancient in his day. And in both cases the association of these men with their moral precepts is as likely legend as fact, but the existence and reverence for their sayings in their respective cultures was still real
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If you want to compare the two sets of laws here is the link:

    http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/features/2000/carrier2.html

    Regards,
    Julie

  • LDH
    LDH

    Aren't there portions of the Bible's commandments that were also lifted from Hammurabi's code?

    Lisa

  • Mindchild
    Mindchild

    Thanks for posting this Julie. It reminds me of the book I read earlier this year The Bible Unearthed by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman both of whom are well known in Biblical Archaeology. This books gives the reasoning that the first five books of the Bible as we now know are the result of a complex editorial process in which the four main source documents were combined and linked by scribal compilers and many scholars think it was done in the sixth and fifth centuries. Most scholars also recognize the Pentateuch as a patchwork of different stories, each woven together under different historical circumstances to express different religious or politcal viewpoints. In short, they were propaganda.

    Even more shocking, the historical and archeological evidence shows that the famous Israelites were actually dissed off Canaanites who eventually grew into a nation. Just as we see the Watch Tower Society rewriting history for their own agenda, it has been happening a long long time.

    Skipper

    It may be that your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit