Jehovah Reveals

by Norm 9 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Norm
    Norm

    The Watchtower Society has a long history of failed predictions and flip/flop teachings.
    This is rather strange considering their bold claims of having this unique “direct line” to the Almighty.

    There seem to be no end to what Jehovah reveals to the guys in Brooklyn. The Watchtower magazine never tires of reminding it’s readers of this remarkable connection.

    In the beginning Russell had adopted a “chronology” involving dates like 1799, the beginning of the end, 1874, Jesus parousia or invisible return, 1914, the end of this “system”.

    Of course all of this was no doubt “revealed” to him by Jehovah. Naturally not any of this happened and when the guy went ahead and died in 1916, it was pretty clear although not to his followers that the whole thing was just fantasy. After a power struggle over control of the ruins of the Watchtower Society, “Booze” Rutherford took over and he knew he had to get some new dates to rally interest and get the hot air machine going again, so he gave an assignment to two of his trusted men, one of them the complete lunatic Clayton J. Woodworth, to write the book, “The Finished Mystery” Woodworth was also the editor of the Golden Age magazine, Rutherford provided them with plenty of booze, which really explains a lot when you read the complete insane nonsense they came up with in the book.
    The new dates were 1918, 1920 and 1925, all of course resounding failures.

    Later all this has been smoothed over and falsified and in 1964 it sounded like this:

    *w64 6/15 365 - 22 As Jehovah revealed his truths by means of the first-century Christian congregation so he does today by means of the present-day Christian congregation. Through this agency he is having carried out prophesying on an intensified and unparalleled scale. All this activity is not an accident. Jehovah is the one behind all of it.

    *w64 6/15 365 - 23 The holy spirit of Jehovah is working mightily today! How thankful we should be for the provision God has made of this slave class, the modern spiritual remnant, as they faithfully dispense the revealed truths of Jehovah!

    After the “Millions now living” campaign that hinged upon the date 1925 had to be chalked up as another resounding failure, Rutherford went ahead and made an overhaul of Russell’s failed dates. He was able to recycle 1914, which was the end point in Russell’s fantasy chronology as it became the beginning point instead. The year 1914 now replaced both 1799 and 1874. But the main purpose was that it bought the Watchtower Society plenty of time, but alas time that is now completely spent and leaves Brooklyn in a kind of limbo.
    After Brooklyn was forced by time itself to finally let the famous “1914 generation” die, they have been without any date to focus on and that’s really a great problem for a thoroughly apocalyptic sect as the Watchtower Society are.

    It seems as though the new leaders are now so immersed in internal power struggles and intrigues that there is no strong central leader who has the power to come out with a new date to become a rally point that can bring some “fire” into the publishers again. After having stretched the 1914 generation to its ultimate limit there suddenly was nothing and now they are left with the same old worn out “time is short” crap that has been peddled for a couple of thousand years by all the “end time” idiots.
    So now the world class bunglers in Brooklyn staggers on burdened with a history and a legacy that demonstrates very clearly that whatever God there might be has never revealed anything whatsoever to these sorry clowns. Yet they still enjoy a following of several million more or less voluntarily ignorant people who promotes an perpetuates the idiocy.

    Norm

  • Clam
    Clam

    Very good post Norm.

    As far as coming up with a new Armageddon date is concerned, the WTS is, I'm glad to say - "damned if it does and damned if it doesn't."

  • Zico
    Zico

    Witnesses will focus on anything now. I showed a JW a news link quoting Elton John saying that 'Organised religion should be banned' His response was to state that Elton John was a popular figure, with lots of connections, and that maybe this could bring about the Great Tribulation. It's incredible what you can convince yourself to believe when you want something to happen enough.

  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    Maybe Jehober is tired of talking to ugly, stuffy ole men!! After all, there's millions of beautiful women!!

    Did I just say he might talk to women???

  • Clam
    Clam
    His response was to state that Elton John was a popular figure, with lots of connections, and that maybe this could bring about the Great Tribulation.

    Hehe priceless. Elton John may be mentioned in the book of Revelation then?

  • geevee
    geevee

    Norm: I can only agree with you. Love the wt quotes.
    Bit like in the Harp of God, "these are NOT mans dates, they are God's"

    What baloney!

  • Dark_Princess
    Dark_Princess

    You Do Know that this could be the true religion.

    I was talking to my father and he said that in the bible, Jesus Said that The true religion will be the religion EVERYONE hates.. Is Jehovahs Witnesses not it?

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5
    Is Jehovahs Witnesses not it?

    I disagree.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Your commentary is good. It is pretty clear that JF Rutherford took the wrong
    "true beliefs" of one man and made them into a profitable corporation. Somewhere
    along the way, he picked up many true believers along with the sharks. Long after
    his death, it is clear that there are many true believers among the elite GB, but also
    from reading PROCLAIMERS and seeing how they twist the past over and over in the WT,
    it is clear that there are still sharks in the elite.

    Good news is that most of the faithful followers are not that faithful. The vast majority are
    leftovers from before 1995 doctrinal changes. Many of the old faithful and a huge amount
    of the newcomers since 1995 are "weak" witnesses- they miss meetings, went to or go to
    college, watch television and movies considered immoral, they recruit for less than 10 hours
    a month (many making up their recruitment hours), they ring the bells and leave the mags
    and run away or sit at a busstop holding up mags.

    You are right "that there is no strong central leader who has the power to come out with a
    new date to become a rally point that can bring some “fire” into the publishers again."
    But don't be surprised if they manage to find that leader. I think they may only succeed in
    rallying a few, though and their message will continue upon people who look things up on the
    internet.

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    Very good post Norm.

    You are so right - the gb really needs a "date" for their followers to focus on, and it seems that they are unable to come up with one, although there was a watchtower a few years ago that compared the last days of this system to the days of Noah, which lasted for 120 years, and went on to say that it is 90 years since the beginning of the end of this system. Some took that as a clear hint that 2034 could be the final wind up for this system, though the article didn't mention it, so everything is deniable from a gb point of view.

    However, I saw a post the other day about an article in the December awake about God's kingdom which makes absolutely no mention of 1914, so maybe the wts are moving towards abandoning that date altogether, and doing it in a gradual way so as to not arouse suspicion in their ranks. One thing for sure, whenever time runs out on one story, the wts is always able to come up with another one to keep the majority of their followers fooled. It will be interesting to see what new light they come up with in the next few months and years.

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