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| Aaac | Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
Finnish CO was sentenced for three years for molesting little girls in Estonia and his Finnish congregation years 2003 to 2005. Man had been a CO in Estonia. The mother was not believed at first, but laughed at. She is a JW herself. "They just laughed at me and told me that this man is so gullible." Some of the molesting took place in Canary Islands, where the 74-year-old man was "as a granpa" for the children.
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| sass_my_frass | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
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| outofthebox | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
I have a ton of words in my mind for that guy, but I'll be banned from this forum for life if I mention them. Grrrr. This is awful! | ||
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| MissingLink | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
Translation anyone?
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| loosie | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
They just laughed at me and told me that this man is so gullible." I don't understand why would that be funny? | ||
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| Awakened at Gilead | Re: Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
We had a CO in Ecuador that was Df'd since it was discovered that he a molested 2 sisters about 15 years prior...
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| flipper | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
That is sicko mundo ! I bet if they dig around in the archives or checked in the cracks - more Circuit overseers and district overseers would be found out having abused children ! Let's see - I hear one very famous JW district overseer was rumored to have abused children here in California some years ago ! I hear tale he is still on the loose though. Bastards. Peace out, Mr. Flipper | ||
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| Aaac | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
Here is a rough translation:
74-year-old molested his grandchildren
Jehovah's Witnesses community is shaken by an incest and pedophilescandal, where a 74-year-old grandfather was sentenced for molesting four children.
Offers were 5 to 11-year-old girls. Two of the girls were man's own grandchildren.
Court found molestations toward grandchildren to be aggravated.
Both the 75-year-old and the offers with their families are Jehovah's Witnesses. Man was convicted at Espoo Local Court for thee years in prison.
According to the court sentence, the crimes have taken place in Spain, Estonia and Espoo [Finland] through years 2003 to 2005. Everything started to become clear on a vacation to Tenerife, where two of the girls were with.
"Family friends had taken (the 74-year-old) with them on a vacation as a grandpa. My own daughter was with them as a friend of their daughter," tells a mother whose child was molested 9-years-old.
"Girls came by to tell what had happened. I immeaditely put everything on paper."
According to mother, her daughter has recovered of the case quite well, although she has had it difficult at times. Also, investigations took many years before the sentence.
"At first, we were not believed, really we were laughed at: he is such a gullible man, please don't tell us that."
During the vacation in Tenerife, molestation was limited to touching, and mast*rbating so that the girls saw it.
During the preliminary hearing, it was beginning to be seen, that the two girls had been molested in a way clearly beyond that.
Especially the older of the family girls has suffered from depression and lack of trust and sense of safetiness.
Deeds happened on a vacation in Spain and at home in Estonia and Finland. The 74-year-old often took care of the girls and he was considered as a childcaring person.
About the Tenerife incident, man admitted a part of the accusations. Aggravated molestation was totally denied by him in court.
The 74-year-old left for Estonia as early as in the beginning of the 90's to bee a missionary after the Soviet Union had collapsed.
He was there to start one local congregation.
"Part of the people thought he was a charity man who brought clothes and other things. When you see this man, nobady would believe this about him," says a family friend of the 9-year-old.
According his Estonian visitcard, the 74-year-old was there as a Congregation Overseer, Circuit Overseer and a member of the Hospital Liaison Commitee.
"Elders should be idols, but this one has really ignored Bible's principles," the friend tells.
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| freetosee | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
Thanks for the info and translation! Worldwide there are so many victims...and all the gb needs to do, is change its policies... but they don't... thats pure evil!! fts | ||
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| The Oracle | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
Worldwide there are so many victims...and all the gb needs to do, is change its policies... but they don't... thats pure evil!! Exactly. Lord knows they aren't afraid to change doctrine...why not change a dumb policy that helps create a safe haven for child molestors? To steal a page from the elders book they can only be one of two things - they are either weak or evil... The Oracle | ||
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| GermanXJW | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
Maybe this guy is mentioned in the yearbook? | ||
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| WTWizard | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
One hounder-hounder down, who knows how many more to go. And that is why it is so embarrassing to be associated with those cockroach-jizz witlesses. | ||
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| Aaac | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
With "offer" I meant "victim", of course.
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| GermanXJW | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
"Victim" is "Opfer" in German so I assumed that is what you meant. Is it "offer" in Finnish? | ||
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| flipper | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
The insidious thing about this pedophile is that it was stated about him, " When you see this man nobody would believe this about him. " no doubt that led some to disbelieve the accusations of child abuse as the victim and her family were, " not believed and laughed at ". How many times has this been true of similar situations in the Jehovah's Witness organization. This is like a bad rerun which keeps reoccurring constantly ! This thread is important for people to see. It is duly bumped up. Peace out, Mr. Flipper | ||
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| The Oracle | Re: Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
I agree with Mr. Flipper. It's an important one. Too many dubs with their heads in the sand on this one. | ||
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| Mightyone | Re: Finnish CO centenced for molesting 5 to 11 year-old girls | |
Worldwide there are so many victims...and all the gb needs to do, is change its policies... but they don't... thats pure evil!! Change the policy how? Oh, I know, Make it so that any one person with a grudge or in need of some attention can make some false accusation and turn anothers life into a living hell. Believe me, anyone that molests a child deserves whatever wrath and fury comes their way. But you better believe me, if anyone ever falsly accused me and costs me my family, job, I would spend the rest of my life eaking out revenge. The bottom line is that there is no sure fire method of preventing abuse, except for parents to be proactive and protect their own children. I would never think to let my little girl go out in service for any length of time with an older brother. And if my little girl ever accusses someone, I would definately get to the bottom of it. If I found just cause, that person would be prosecuted, PERIOD! I don't give a rats a@$ who doesn't like it. I've said it before, and I will say it again, If you are reading this and are an abuse victim, my heart bleeds for you. I wish I could do or say something to bring you some comfort. But no abuse on your part justifies a false accusation on someone elses part. The guildlines from the branch are that any molestor or accused molestor is followed from congregation to congregation with letters of introduction. Those letters never disapear, and that person CANNOT be used in an appointed position. And likewise, the elders cannot stop that person from preaching, but they will not put that person in a cargroup with children. The elders in each congregation that he attends would be aware and they should keep an eagle eye on him. It would bring legal issues on the congregation if they informed all of the members of that persons standing. WE each have a responsibility to gauge a persons standing by their progress. Does that person comment? Are they active proclaimers? Are they used by the congregation? And if you have a suspicion, ask an elder that you are close to. | ||
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