by imallgrowedup 8 Replies latest jw friends
Hi there!
A couple of days ago I was surfing freeminds, and thought I came across something that AlanF wrote regarding the WT appearing before the UN Economic and Social Council. Now I can't find it! Does anyone know anything about this - or any other instance of the WT appearing before the UN - or where I might be able to find more info? Any help would greatly be appreciated!!!
Thanks!
growedup
I just read that too - now i've gotta go find it again. I'll let you know, if someone hasn't beaten me to it!
See -
I am SO glad to know that I am not the only person that saw this! I'm still looking for it - if you find it before me, please be sure to let me know!!
Thanks!!!
growedup
P.S. And if anyone finds it before either of us, please post!!!
i'd like that juicy piece too. wish i could just have a sound file of it =D
I found it! However, the WT didn't speak before the Economic and Social Council, they spoke at the UN's European Human Rights Commission. I was close. *sheepish smile*! The only problem is that it doesn't list dates or specific agendas. Can anyone shed some light?
Link: http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm
Shortly after the Society resigned from associated NGO status, I called the man who was probably the instigator of them joining up, one Harry Peloyan, who is editor-in-chief of Awake! I asked him to tell me what he thought about the furor. He immediately attacked me and started fuming about "you people" making a "molehile out of a mountain" (he coughed and corrected himself), and said that the only thing they had in mind was to get access to the UN's library. Since it has been pointed out that virtually all the materials are available either from other sources, or through a lengthier access process from the UN, I conclude that it was at first just to get easier access to the material. One man who works closely with Peloyan in the Writing Dept., one Ciro Aulicino (he was listed as the WTS contact man on the official NGO registration form) was often seen by Barbara Anderson going to the UN to do research.growedup
Peloyan, as editor of Awake!, was in a unique position to facilitate publishing articles that gave the appearance -- but not the reality -- of the WTS's complying with the requirements to be an associated NGO. It would have been impossible to get such articles of praise published without his cooperation. And knowing a bit of how Peloyan has always worked behind the scenes and used other people, like Aulicino, to get things done, I'm not a bit hesitant to speculate that Peloyan was the guy who was the 'muscle' behind getting the Watchtower to join the UN as an associated NGO. His amazingly bitter reaction to me on the phone proves it.
I strongly suspect that after some time passed, some of these men and their cronies realized that they had some political capital with the association with the UN. During the 1990s they had WTS representatives appear before various political bodies such as the UN's European Human Rights Commission and the U.S. Congress in sessions on human rights. Of course, they were lobbying to get and keep various rights for themselves to further their religious goals. Most JWs that I've talked to about this at first deny that the Watchtower involved itself in politics, but when I point out that Martin Luther King was certainly engaged in political lobbying when he worked hard for human rights, they always acknowledge that the Society indeed hypocritically meddled in politics.
I did some investigation among Bethelites and others around the time the NGO story first broke. No one outside Peloyan's inner circle of cronies knew anything about it, and in fact, were more than a bit shocked to hear of it. Therefore it's evident that these guys knew perfectly well that they had to keep their association with the UN quiet so as not to raise eyebrows among less cynical Bethelites. This demonstrates the gross hypocrisy of these Watchtower officials. -AlanF
How about this?
http://www.greekhelsinki.gr/english/pressrelease/ngo-petition-23-10-2000-osce2000.html
The "Administrative Center for Jehovah?s Witnesses in Russia" as a signatory in a petition protesting "Reduction of Intervention time". Interestingly, one of their co-signatories is the "European Human Rights Office, Church of Scientology". Library card, pah!
FD -
Thanks a lot! I spent quite a bit of time trying to find some examples, but I missed that one! I appreciate you providing the link!
growedup
Imall:
Spot on research...now the challenges:
1. Getting a JW to at least look at the info
2. Getting a JW to concede that it's factual
3. Getting a JW to admit it's wrong what they did
4. Getting a JW to not just accept it as "new light"
Here is another informative site on said topic with quite a few links contained therein:
Watchtower Society Rides the Beast
... To verify that the Watchtower Society was indeed ... beast", consider this page on the
United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights web site ...
www.geocities.com/wts_rides_the_beast/Awake112298.htm - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
sKally
