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New Kingdom Hall planned
Bradenton Herald, FL - 2 hours ago
... The word "Christian" has been added to Jehovah's Witnesses now because many people don't think Witnesses are Christian, Honorine Lowe said. ...
 

New Kingdom Hall planned


RICHARD DYMOND

Herald Staff Writer

MANATEE - Three local congregations of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses are hoping to be in a new Kingdom Hall by 2006.

The final site plan for a 5,267-square-foot Kingdom Hall, which would be located on about two acres at 2803 38th Ave E., is being reviewed by the county planning department, said Manny Hedgeman, a church elder.

The building will be worth roughly $2 million when completed and will be built totally by Jehovah's Christian Witnesses from southwest Florida, Hedgeman said.

The Braden River, Somerset Spanish and East Spanish congregations, all local, will use the new facility.

There are four Kingdom Halls in Manatee County serving about 12 congregations.

Jehovah's Christian Witnesses are best known for "witnessing," or going door-to-door telling about God while offering magazines and pamphlets about their faith.

But their services are also unique.

Along with songs and prayers, they have a talk by a different elder or visitor every Sunday, said Harold Lowe, 70, who, with his wife, Honorine, 86, have 125 combined years preaching about God door-to-door in Manatee County.

Jehovah's Christian Witnesses differ from other Christian faiths in that they believe that Jesus Christ was a perfect, sinless, man who was the first creation of God, Jehovah, and next in command after God, Harold Lowe said.

Many Christians, however, believe Christ is God, Lowe said.

"A lady once said to me when I knocked on her door, 'I don't want to talk to you. You don't believe in Jesus.' " Harold Lowe recalls. "I answered, 'That's not true. We believe that Jesus was God's first creation and he came to earth to do His Father's will.' "

The word "Christian" has been added to Jehovah's Witnesses now because many people don't think Witnesses are Christian, Honorine Lowe said.

"You should come to one of our meetings," Lowe said. "The sound of the pages of Bibles turning when one of the elders speak is like wind rustling leaves."

The history of the Witnesses in Manatee County dates back to around 1900 when a Captain Russell, who ran the ferry between Bradenton and Palmetto, created a Bible study, said James Sellers, 73, a long-time Witness.

Honorine Lowe's grandmother, Susan Miller, helped organize the first Kingdom Hall in downtown Bradenton, near the courthouse.

Miller's husband ran a sawmill on Lorraine Road, which was mostly woods in 1920, Lowe said.

"We are all united as Witnesses and study the same lessons," Honorine Lowe said. "There are no barriers of race, nationality, nothing. We all love our God, Jehovah, our Savior, Jesus, and our neighbors. We are a very loving group of people."

When a Kingdom Hall gets too crowded - as Braden River has gotten - a new Kingdom Hall is built, Hedgeman said.

"When we get close to 200, we start to look to split the congregations," Hedgeman said. "That's based on the Bible, which says there were about 120 Christians that were gathered at Pentecost in Jerusalem in the first century, waiting for Christ to send the Holy Spirit."

Sellers said Witnesses can better take care of each other in small groups.

"Each congregation has a group of older men and when people have domestic problems, financial problems, when people sink into depression, we try to look after them," Sellers said. "How can one pastor carry the work load?"

Kingdom Halls are designed to be practical. There are no visible symbols.

"We don't set out to be different," Hedgeman added. "What we set out to do is what Christ set up. We are based on the first century Christ. There is no salary for anyone, no collection plates passed. Jesus said you receive free and give free, don't charge for ministry."

Richard Dymond, Herald reporter, can be reached at 708-7917 or rdymond@HeraldToday.com.

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[Footnote from Danny Haszard: in the early 1980's i was admonished by an elder for introducing myself door to door as a Jehovah's CHRISTIAN Witness i thought this was appropriate (nice ring to it)

I have 48 years of JW exposure,now the last i heard (ca.1982) the Jehovah's Christian Witnesses were an 'apostate' group and they had a cong. two towns over in Braintree Massachusetts from where i lived in Massachusetts.

They were listed in the phone book as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses

I believe David Reed was the pastor there,so is this 'new light' or am i out of the loop.
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DannyHaszardRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
Click the google keyword search for "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses
 
 
 

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The 'official' Watchtower site isn't even immediately indexed at the new keywords

Hello!Tower cyber geeks are you reading this thread cause apostate's own this new keyword index
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luna2Re: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
I guess they needed to do this...I've had more than a few people over the years ask if JW's were Christian. 
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PaulJRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME

oooooohhh a name change! Is that official then?
"The sound of the pages of Bibles turning when one of the elders speak is like wind rustling leaves."
LMAO- that is the funniest thing Ive heard in ages...
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The ChucklerRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
Billons of hours spent declaring Jesus spiritual return from door to door throught out the world and people still don't know.
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blondieRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME

They used to use the phrase Jehovah's Christian Witnesses in the publications.  Then it dropped off to nothing in 1980  I was told on this board that an ex-JW group had trademarked the name and used it.  I checked and the group's website is now defunct.  Does that mean the WTS thinks enough time has  gone by to remove the confusion   about whether it is a WTS group or an "apostate" group.

They also identify themselves as the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses (a corporation BTW) using it on letterhead.  Where they had boards outside stadiums stay Watchtower Convention, it now says CCOJW (spelled out).

I wonder if they will update the names of KHs?

km 4/79 p. 4 Announcements ***
Is it appropriate to have a Kingdom Hall sign saying: "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses"? So there will be uniformity, the Society encourages all to make their signs read: "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses." (See October 1978 Our Kingdom Service, page 3, paragraph 5.)
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CrumpetRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
That's based on the Bible, which says there were about 120 Christians that were gathered at Pentecost in Jerusalem in the first century, waiting for Christ to send the Holy Spirit

I never knew that the size of the congregations was based around this!

And also this
 "The sound of the pages of Bibles turning when one of the elders speak is like wind rustling leaves

has reminded me of one of meeting disruption techniques from when I was a kid. Me and my two sisters would noisily rustle our pages for minutes after we hsould have found the scripture on purpose- avidly tearing through the pages, whilst the speaker patiently waited. I also remember doing this when a sister we didn't like much was up there giving a talk - working on "time". She went over and got the bell!
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tijkmoRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME

so will the disfellowshipping announcement be changed

or will someone who has been announced as not being one of jehovahs witnesses be able to say...cool i never wanted to be one of jehovahs witnesses anyways cos i want to be one of jehovahs christian witnesses
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willylomanRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
"When we get close to 200, we start to look to split the congregations," Hedgeman said. "That's based on the Bible, which says there were about 120 Christians that were gathered at Pentecost in Jerusalem in the first century, waiting for Christ to send the Holy Spirit."

He pulled that out of his ass. The reason for splitting congos is control, period. When the group gets too big, it's difficult to keep track of everyone. Elders can't tell if you're missing meetings or not because of the size of the crowd.
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blondieRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
He pulled that out of his ass.
Is that where elders get their directions?
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HappyDadRe: Re: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME

Each congregation has a group of older men and when people have domestic problems, financial problems, when people sink into depression, we try to look after them,

Now this is the biggest crock of kaka I have heard in a long time. The only help ever given from their mindset when you have these problems is to rely more on Jehovah. THAT'S HELP?????????

I shouldn't have read this thread. Now my very peaceful evening has become an angry one. Boy, I wish some overzealous JW who believes in evening harrassing witnessing, would knock on my door.

Do they actually believe their own made up fairy tales and lies? Oh yeah.........they do, because I once believed it too!

HappyDad
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love2BworldlyRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME

I am cracking up, some of the quotes are hysterical.  JWs are just plain nuts!

LOVE the story of the kids rustling the pages of their Bibles, that's great!

 
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greendawnRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
Nobody listens to the dubs because people got wind of the fact that they are not what they claim to be, if they were behaving like a christian society they would get a lot more response, and the top echelon give the bad example with their unchristian attitude.
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HonestyRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
We all love our God, Jehovah, our Savior, Jesus, and our neighbors. We are a very loving group of people.

Lying bastards.

They can't wait until 6 billion of their neighbors are effed off the face of the earth by their Demon god so the illiterate and uneducated cult members can take over their homes and live forever in paradise with each other.
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dhRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
i think they are swinging from using the word 'jehovah' all the time as well, and will start using plain old 'god' a lot more more... i noticed this on a recent assembly program, talking about 'obey god', but when i was a jw it would always have been 'obey JEHOVAH'
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HellriderRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
Bullcrap, they are not christians, and never were. Yes, without 2000 years of christianity, there would be no JWs, but their theology is so different from ALL other christian groups, that they have no right calling themselves christians. No holy trinity, no death on the cross (although the cross is mentioned several tims in the bible, I never bought into that "mistranslation from the greek word"-crap), eternal earthly life, the list goes on and on. They should stick with the JW-name, not changing it.
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crazyblondebRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME

Well, I just had to clean the computer screen again, laughing so hard I spewed soda on it. What a joke! Smaller congregations so they can help out more!!!!! So they can be more nosier, controlling, and manipulating!

My mom needs help. She lives in a old trailer with holes in it. Won't ask for help. I just want to knock some sense into her. I guarantee the next time I get to Missouri, someone will get a visit from me. Oh, for you lurkers--it'll be the Columbia, MO congragation!!!
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Nathan NatasRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME


The official Watchtower CDROM gives a total of 814 hits on the phrase "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses." the vast majority of the hits are for publications of the 1970s.

I thought this little news item from the April 1979 Kingdom Ministry might be of interest:
Is it appropriate to have a Kingdom Hall sign saying: "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses"? So there will be uniformity, the Society encourages all to make their signs read: "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses." (See October 1978 Our Kingdom Service, page 3, paragraph 5.)

More stategic micro-"tacking" to keep the rank and file preoccupied with gloriously trivial "new light!" Jehovah's Go-Cart-like organization move forward with boldness!

"Yes, I hope t waste my entire life serving a book publishing company, but after I die they will ressurect me! They said so at the assembly!"
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watchtower_and_afakeRe: CHAMELEON JW's MORPH their NAME
Is it appropriate to have a Kingdom Hall sign saying: "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses"? So there will be uniformity, the Society encourages all to make their signs read: "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses." (See October 1978 Our Kingdom Service, page 3, paragraph 5.) --- DUH!!!! New Light!!! Is'nt it nice for the Governing Body to provide the proper food at the proper time.
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